Maschil_Crane

Markus Omni

Maschil_Crane

Luke3107Just bare in mind, Maschil, that we aren't trying to push you out of the RP. All we are asking is that you respect the lore of the universe the RP is set in. Nothing more. A wristpad or similar device is fine, it's pseudoscience that we have to accept for the Universe until such a time as Frontier gives specifics on such equipment.

However, no matter how you try to explain it away, a Pip-Boy, is Fallout Lore, not Elite Lore. Simple as that. Sure, it's a small thing now, but the knock on effect is potentially huge.

We allow a pip-boy because "Fallout existed in the past therefore someone must have made a Pip-boy" Then we get "Star Trek existed, so teleporters must have been invented." Followed by "Skyrim existed so someone got plastic surgery to look like a Khajit." (Something we've already discouraged I might add.) This might be a small insignificant thing to you, but to the community as a whole it is a stone in a pond. It will create a ripple effect. If we allow that logic to apply once, we are forced to allow it to apply time and time again. (If you want to keep it Fallout related, what about the BigBoy Nuke Launcher thing? No reason someone hasn't invented one of those either after all).

To put it into a different context for you imagine joining a badminton club then saying "I can hit the shuttlecock because it bounces therefore hitting the ground isn't enough". In some weird way, yes, it makes sense. But at the end of the day, that's not the rule. The same applies here.

There is a small amount of logic to your argument, Fallout is a small part of Earth history. But it is, nonetheless, a VERY small piece. Insignificantly small I might add. I subscribe to the theory of infinite probability but does that mean I'm going to shoehorn a Daedra invasion into Citi Gateway? No.

Again, we are not here to be your enemy. We are here to collectively create stories for each others enjoyment. Unfortunately this means having a set of ground rules so that no-ones story contradicts anothers. The main one being, as has been pointed out to you, Respect the Lore of the Elite: Dangerous Universe. The Pip-Boy, is not part of that universe.

It's a simple thing. All we want, is that you refer to it as a wristpad from now on. In your Logbooks,GO WILD!!! Call it a Pip-Boy, Fight Deathclaws, drink your Nuka Cola or play with Dogmeat. But in the RP, Stick to the Lore, preferably without making excuses to shoehorn other lore stuff in.

Ok Im done repeating myself about this. Like I said before contact Frontier and have them completely disassociate anything relateable to ours or any other universe. They opened the floodgates to the saturation of the universes history not me. I believe that was part of their intended purpose in fact to further expand on the "limitless" boundaries of the game.

That's all you'll hear from me on this subject. See you at the InGaBa. No hard feelings I hope.

CMDR Crane Out.

I have an idea (probably should've said this a long ass time ago)- Elite is based off earths previous history right? So Star Wars was created, lord of the rings was rehearsed in massive leap events, and the GAME FALLOUT 4-'dun dun da dun- was made and played and enjoyed.
So, ahem- here's an idea- just an idea! Bear with me-

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Your father had an ancient copy, and you made a computer/wristwatch that WASNT a pop boy 2000 or whatever, but looked LIKE one and acted like one from the ancient days. Something you spent tinkering with for months to replicate and make and enjoy. A trinket if you will. My "model".

Eh? Eh? Yeh? :3

That sounds fine too. I never mentioned how I got the device. Just that it was old. Mine is, however, for the time being, a "Pip-Boy 200,000" so it would be quite a bit newer than the version you use in Fallout. Therefore it would be even more probably my character has one, or a replica of one because the model I have is not from as far away.

You actually brought a new point to my mind. According to my knowledge a new Fallout game is already in the works. So who's to say Fallout wont be a long lasting franchise like Zelda or Mario or Halo?

Thank you for your insight. So, there, hopefully this pleases everyone who seemed to have their panties in a bunch: my wrist computer is most likely a replica.

Markus OmniYeah, again I mean, the whole reason why guys here go super butt hurt was that you didn't explain yourself thoroughly enough. It was an accident, on both parts. I should also mention that one of the primary lore lovers here stated something along the lines of him playing a game like Warcraft or some other MMORPG, and watched it tear itself apart with people bringing in far fetched ideas that were beyond the idea of "non-lore." As Syndrome from The Incredibles said, "everyone become special. And when everyone is special, no one is special." You just gotta suck it up, cover the angles, and especially ask. We're a friendly community, and will be more than willing to provide the help or advice necessary, provided a little initiative is given : )

John "Xeknos" Mathurin

Markus OmniYeah, again I mean, the whole reason why guys here go super butt hurt was that you didn't explain yourself thoroughly enough. It was an accident, on both parts. I should also mention that one of the primary lore lovers here stated something along the lines of him playing a game like Warcraft or some other MMORPG, and watched it tear itself apart with people bringing in far fetched ideas that were beyond the idea of "non-lore." As Syndrome from The Incredibles said, "everyone become special. And when everyone is special, no one is special." You just gotta suck it up, cover the angles, and especially ask. We're a friendly community, and will be more than willing to provide the help or advice necessary, provided a little initiative is given : )

That was me. I watched the World of Warcraft roleplay community collapse in on itself because everyone was tripping over themselves trying to be "the specialist panda," which, frankly is what the initial Pipboy reeked of, though I'll admit you've done a halfway decent job of walking it back.

The thing that I think you missed while trying to play scientist is that the station names that exist in the universe were named that way because the Frontier Dev team loves them some pop-culture references. While I recognize that your initial attempt at the Pipboy was also a reference, it seems like you quickly learned that there's a right way to referencing something and a wrong way to do it. Initially claiming that your Pipboy was indeed a continuation of the Robco technology line is the wrong way to do it, but backpedaling to where your character's father built him a replica of one is a little bit closer to the correct way.

I try not to play lore police too often, but my experience in WoW has caused me to be a little more hard-lined about it than some of the others here. I also try not to be a dick about it, but you people make that kind of difficult sometimes.

Maschil_Crane

John "Xeknos" Mathurin

Markus OmniYeah, again I mean, the whole reason why guys here go super butt hurt was that you didn't explain yourself thoroughly enough. It was an accident, on both parts. I should also mention that one of the primary lore lovers here stated something along the lines of him playing a game like Warcraft or some other MMORPG, and watched it tear itself apart with people bringing in far fetched ideas that were beyond the idea of "non-lore." As Syndrome from The Incredibles said, "everyone become special. And when everyone is special, no one is special." You just gotta suck it up, cover the angles, and especially ask. We're a friendly community, and will be more than willing to provide the help or advice necessary, provided a little initiative is given : )

That was me. I watched the World of Warcraft roleplay community collapse in on itself because everyone was tripping over themselves trying to be "the specialist panda," which, frankly is what the initial Pipboy reeked of, though I'll admit you've done a halfway decent job of walking it back.

The thing that I think you missed while trying to play scientist is that the station names that exist in the universe were named that way because the Frontier Dev team loves them some pop-culture references. While I recognize that your initial attempt at the Pipboy was also a reference, it seems like you quickly learned that there's a right way to referencing something and a wrong way to do it. Initially claiming that your Pipboy was indeed a continuation of the Robco technology line is the wrong way to do it, but backpedaling to where your character's father built him a replica of one is a little bit closer to the correct way.

I try not to play lore police too often, but my experience in WoW has caused me to be a little more hard-lined about it than some of the others here. I also try not to be a dick about it, but you people make that kind of difficult sometimes.

What do you mean "You people"? ahaha.

I only ever mentioned the name though. I didnt back pedal because my character never said where it came from or who it was made by. He only said that it was ancient. You all assumed it was a Robco model, but even so how is it only a "little bit closer?" Can we just admit that we've come to an agreeable compromise? I wont directly involve other worldly objects into roleplay, but I can name or call things whatever I desire. If someone wants to name their ship the USS Enterprise then that's well within their right and in no way at all does it conflict with the lore of the Elite universe.

Desert Fox CXVIIPrancy Paws. Not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need.

Markus Omni

Desert Fox CXVIIPrancy Paws. Not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need.

He's also seemingly the richest person in all of Equestria half sprung between here and the muggles of middle earth. "4,953,480,265,100 CR"

Holy shit yo. Wish I had some of that. *looks into own meager bankings*

John "Xeknos" Mathurin

Maschil_Crane

John "Xeknos" Mathurin

Markus OmniYeah, again I mean, the whole reason why guys here go super butt hurt was that you didn't explain yourself thoroughly enough. It was an accident, on both parts. I should also mention that one of the primary lore lovers here stated something along the lines of him playing a game like Warcraft or some other MMORPG, and watched it tear itself apart with people bringing in far fetched ideas that were beyond the idea of "non-lore." As Syndrome from The Incredibles said, "everyone become special. And when everyone is special, no one is special." You just gotta suck it up, cover the angles, and especially ask. We're a friendly community, and will be more than willing to provide the help or advice necessary, provided a little initiative is given : )

That was me. I watched the World of Warcraft roleplay community collapse in on itself because everyone was tripping over themselves trying to be "the specialist panda," which, frankly is what the initial Pipboy reeked of, though I'll admit you've done a halfway decent job of walking it back.

The thing that I think you missed while trying to play scientist is that the station names that exist in the universe were named that way because the Frontier Dev team loves them some pop-culture references. While I recognize that your initial attempt at the Pipboy was also a reference, it seems like you quickly learned that there's a right way to referencing something and a wrong way to do it. Initially claiming that your Pipboy was indeed a continuation of the Robco technology line is the wrong way to do it, but backpedaling to where your character's father built him a replica of one is a little bit closer to the correct way.

I try not to play lore police too often, but my experience in WoW has caused me to be a little more hard-lined about it than some of the others here. I also try not to be a dick about it, but you people make that kind of difficult sometimes.

What do you mean "You people"? ahaha.

I only ever mentioned the name though. I didnt back pedal because my character never said where it came from or who it was made by. He only said that it was ancient. You all assumed it was a Robco model, but even so how is it only a "little bit closer?" Can we just admit that we've come to an agreeable compromise? I wont directly involve other worldly objects into roleplay, but I can name or call things whatever I desire. If someone wants to name their ship the USS Enterprise then that's well within their right and in no way at all does it conflict with the lore of the Elite universe.

I'm sorry, but what?

If you merely wanted something that you called a "Pipboy" but was actually a regular wrist-pad, you wouldn't have launched into your poor multiverse argument, which was pretty clearly designed to try and justify your Pipboy being an actual Robco Pipboy from the far future. You didn't soften your stance on that until you agreed to Luke's idea above and hedged by finally saying, "oh, no, this is just a replica we built out of Sidewinder parts."

You think you're clever, but it looks like you're a smidge too clever for your own good.

Desert Fox CXVIIPrancy Paws. Not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need.

Markus OmniTardises? What the hek is that?