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With just a little practice (and quickly after the DC starts screwing up in the station a few times), DC's are soon removed from even the largest ships. Manual docking is faster, safer and easier at good speeds. The DC could find some application [..IF..] FD would implement a toggle for hold-to-activate key feature so it could not threaten your ship with station destruction when it screws up an otherwise smooth landing. There is just no way to turn the damn thing off [and keep it off] quickly.

Last edit: 18 Jun 2017, 7:30pm

Leif

18 Jun 2017, 7:25pm

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Whiplash 1983There is just no way to turn the damn thing off quickly.

There is. Just throttle up ever so slightly.

The main trick about DC is to not let them approach. Enter the dock manually and leave the finding of your dock to it.

Whiplash 1983 Inara supporter

18 Jun 2017, 7:36pm

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I've done the little bit-o-throttle thing, but it tends to re-engage. I don't wrestle with it but even with the most careful application it has freaked out and done some pretty surprising and amazingly dumb stuff in-station and put me closer to loosing ships than anything I have gotten into using manual.

Whiplash 1983 Inara supporter

18 Jun 2017, 8:10pm

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Consider the Kobayashi Maru of DC scenarios.

You bring your kitted out Cutter (at 44 million in insurance) safely through the slot and reduce throttle which causes the DC to engage. The DC extends you landing gear, unexpectedly spins your over-sized ship out of control (presumably to evade an approaching ship or whatever) and snag's your landing gear in the station rigging which now places you in this no-win scinario.

1) You can't dis-engage the DC with the throttle because you're stuck in rigging with no ship movement.
2) You can't retract the landing gear as the DC has control of it and it won't dis-engage.
3) You can't use the "Modules" screen to turn it off because the horn keeps interrupting the screen with repeating station warnings.
4) You reach for your beer and it's empty.

Simon Comrie

18 Jun 2017, 8:23pm

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R.I.P, Whiplash's beer, tho.

Leif

18 Jun 2017, 8:25pm

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Sounds like you're using the DC wrong.

Or your DC doesn't like you in particular.

Whiplash 1983 Inara supporter

18 Jun 2017, 8:39pm

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I think the DC just doesn't like me 'cause I don't know how you could use an auto docking computer "wrong". You either have one, or not.

Oliver N. Hardy Inara supporter

18 Jun 2017, 8:49pm

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The DC used to be fraught with problems, I will agree, but those were ironed out multiple patches ago. Even the speed bug has been fixed and it will keep your ship under 100 during approach and landing in the zone of control. The only issues that I have seen that has not been resolved lately is the queue loop where you will just sit there waiting to enter. I had one missed approach several months back, and the thing actually backed my ship up and repositioned in front of the slot before going in to land. I believe the DC mishap stories have been blown grossly out of proportion and become something of an Urban Myth. If they were as bad as some make them out to be, there would be countless YouTube videos of mishaps and people demanding Frontier to do something about them.

Cartlidge1000

18 Jun 2017, 8:53pm

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Oliver N. HardyThe DC used to be fraught with problems, I will agree, but those were ironed out multiple patches ago. Even the speed bug has been fixed and it will keep your ship under 100 during approach and landing in the zone of control. The only issues that I have seen that has not been resolved lately is the queue loop where you will just sit there waiting to enter. I had one missed approach several months back, and the thing actually backed my ship up and repositioned in front of the slot before going in to land. I believe the DC mishap stories have been blown grossly out of proportion and become something of an Urban Myth. If they were as bad as some make them out to be, there would be countless YouTube videos of mishaps and people demanding Frontier to do something about them.

As a pilot who uses a DC on my T9. My experiences have been pretty much the same. I've had maybe two issues total, neither of which caused any major issues for me. I've always found a DC to be a satisfying investment.

Whiplash 1983 Inara supporter

18 Jun 2017, 9:15pm

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I wish I could make that video compilation as my amusement with DC's has a long history with multiple instances where I can't boost 'cause the gear is down, can't retract with the DC on, can't dis-engage the DC without it re-engaging instantly. Nothing works while it is in control. And it still does this stuff. Not a problem with ships too small to need it. Only on the huge ships does it perform odd high speed reckless maneuvers in-station not possible under manual control. And I am not usually running film then. But I have no problem with huge ship landings now so it's no matter. I just wish I could trust it and do other stuff with the time.

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