Sidenti TaaloI have a question.

If a team of one coder, one modeler and maybe one other person helping the other two can create a feature-complete space-sim that's offline-capable as well as multiplayer-friendly, offers planetary landing and exploration regardless of atmosphere (don't try exploring gas giants unless you know what the hell you're doing though!), city and station building/ownership, all the sandbox staples, AND does so in a package that's less than 400MB thick... why is taking David Braben, his staff of 260 employees, and a much larger pile of cash comparatively 10 seasons to offer much less functionality?

I would seriously like to know why that is.

(I'm talking about Evochron Legacy. Check it out if you haven't. It's $25 on Steam.)

Sidenti TaaloI have a question.

If a team of one coder, one modeler and maybe one other person helping the other two can create a feature-complete space-sim that's offline-capable as well as multiplayer-friendly, offers planetary landing and exploration regardless of atmosphere (don't try exploring gas giants unless you know what the hell you're doing though!), city and station building/ownership, all the sandbox staples, AND does so in a package that's less than 400MB thick... why is taking David Braben, his staff of 260 employees, and a much larger pile of cash comparatively 10 seasons to offer much less functionality?

I would seriously like to know why that is.

(I'm talking about Evochron Legacy. Check it out if you haven't. It's $25 on Steam.)

Frankfort

CoragonRegarding that one Player group spreading their Minor faction to ten systems - do they completely control each and every Station in said systems or "just" one of them ? Would be interesting to find out if one needs to be in total control of a System regarding them Stations (no idea if that's the same with Planetary settlements) or just one per system to be counted towards the "reward" offered by FD (once a year a Minor faction that came to be due to Players requesting it can be chosen to be elevated to become a Power in Powerplay).

I think it works the same way as the powerplay faction controlling 1 sytem and exploiting the surrounding systems.

Brenner SoriahPilots of Inara! Do you want to unite under a common flag? Thanks to a new player faction that was 'given' control of Kremainn, this once noob friendly territory by the LHS 3447 spawn has fallen into Anarchy! I plead to you all, support the cause to oust this player faction with absolutely NO internet presence, and seemingly no activity in this high population system. Help restore law to the territory, and make it safe(r) for the new players once more!

You can help by killing the House of Grebmo npc's, or even better, smuggle goods into Wohler terminal to undermine this outrageous and egregious crime! Please help our new players. I thank you, as do much of the rest of the Elite community

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/42t9im/kremainn_is_no_longer_an_organized_system/

BeachwalkerGrounded . . . . 36 hours and counting.
had a major problem with the game yesterday. Everything kept freezing. Couldn't get out of FSD.
So I decided I had to do something.
Big mistake.
Started messing around with the computer, trying to clean things up, make it faster.
After that I couldn't get into the game at all. So I decided to do a reinstall. Searched for Hours, looking for the original installation disk.
Eventually I gave up and eventually decided to buy Elite: Horizons.
Problem solved. . . . . . .?!?!?!?
Logged on. Downloaded. Installed. Perfect!
Press PLAY . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Wait . . . . . . . . Wait. . . . . .
Enter COMMANDER name . . . . . Beachwalker
Sorry, that name is taken. . . . . . Choose another.
Nooooooooooo

Eventually, I managed to find a name nobody else had, and started up.

I was back to square one. 1000 credits, a stock Sidewinder with only 2 ton cargo space. Stuck on a planet with little hope of ever archiving anything within the next couple of months.

Have I wasted over 150 hours of my life so far? Is it worth carrying on?
Should I just grit my teeth and carry on? Let this be one of life's little lessons?
Or just give up and have an early night?

Commander Beachwalker R.I.P.

Srk Rabbit

Sidenti TaaloI have a question.

If a team of one coder, one modeler and maybe one other person helping the other two can create a feature-complete space-sim that's offline-capable as well as multiplayer-friendly, offers planetary landing and exploration regardless of atmosphere (don't try exploring gas giants unless you know what the hell you're doing though!), city and station building/ownership, all the sandbox staples, AND does so in a package that's less than 400MB thick... why is taking David Braben, his staff of 260 employees, and a much larger pile of cash comparatively 10 seasons to offer much less functionality?

I would seriously like to know why that is.

(I'm talking about Evochron Legacy. Check it out if you haven't. It's $25 on Steam.)

Evochron is not an MMO so can not be compared in the same way. Multiplayer v. MMO is a whole different ball game in terms of design, implementation, and potential issues.
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Evochron Mercenary does not appear to have the fidelity of ED even though it is still pretty good. Then there is the point that FD are trying to recreate our Solar System while Evochron (like most space games) is most likely not specifically interested in the finer points of aligning with the real universe.
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Also it is worth keeping mind that typically the more people you have in a given team, the less productive the team is per person normally (at least up to a point). There are things that can be done to manage and minimise the issues but it is not a simple straightforward matter normally.

Sidenti Taalo

BeachwalkerGrounded . . . . 36 hours and counting.
had a major problem with the game yesterday. Everything kept freezing. Couldn't get out of FSD.
So I decided I had to do something.
Big mistake.
Started messing around with the computer, trying to clean things up, make it faster.
After that I couldn't get into the game at all. So I decided to do a reinstall. Searched for Hours, looking for the original installation disk.
Eventually I gave up and eventually decided to buy Elite: Horizons.
Problem solved. . . . . . .?!?!?!?
Logged on. Downloaded. Installed. Perfect!
Press PLAY . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Wait . . . . . . . . Wait. . . . . .
Enter COMMANDER name . . . . . Beachwalker
Sorry, that name is taken. . . . . . Choose another.
Nooooooooooo

Eventually, I managed to find a name nobody else had, and started up.

I was back to square one. 1000 credits, a stock Sidewinder with only 2 ton cargo space. Stuck on a planet with little hope of ever archiving anything within the next couple of months.

Have I wasted over 150 hours of my life so far? Is it worth carrying on?
Should I just grit my teeth and carry on? Let this be one of life's little lessons?
Or just give up and have an early night?

Commander Beachwalker R.I.P.

That is something for which I would submit a ticket. They'll probably restore your save if they can, and since the name still exists in their system, it's likely they still have your info. At this point, what can you lose by trying that you haven't already lost?

Beachwalker

Sidenti Taalo

BeachwalkerGrounded . . . . 36 hours and counting.
had a major problem with the game yesterday. Everything kept freezing. Couldn't get out of FSD.
So I decided I had to do something.
Big mistake.
Started messing around with the computer, trying to clean things up, make it faster.
After that I couldn't get into the game at all. So I decided to do a reinstall. Searched for Hours, looking for the original installation disk.
Eventually I gave up and eventually decided to buy Elite: Horizons.
Problem solved. . . . . . .?!?!?!?
Logged on. Downloaded. Installed. Perfect!
Press PLAY . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Wait . . . . . . . . Wait. . . . . .
Enter COMMANDER name . . . . . Beachwalker
Sorry, that name is taken. . . . . . Choose another.
Nooooooooooo

Eventually, I managed to find a name nobody else had, and started up.

I was back to square one. 1000 credits, a stock Sidewinder with only 2 ton cargo space. Stuck on a planet with little hope of ever archiving anything within the next couple of months.

Have I wasted over 150 hours of my life so far? Is it worth carrying on?
Should I just grit my teeth and carry on? Let this be one of life's little lessons?
Or just give up and have an early night?

Commander Beachwalker R.I.P.

That is something for which I would submit a ticket. They'll probably restore your save if they can, and since the name still exists in their system, it's likely they still have your info. At this point, what can you lose by trying that you haven't already lost?

Thanks for the support.
I've already put in a ticket, but at the moment they are inundated with support requests for Horizons. . . . (probably all the same requests)
72 hours is what they've told me.
Talk about going 'cold turkey'.
I can't sit still.
Trawling the web sites at the moment, just reading what everyone else is up to. Just itching to get back out there.
Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh. The pain.

Sidenti TaaloIn all of Elite Dangerous, only ONE system is realistically modeled - Sol. The graphics can look sharp all day long, but beyond Sol the ED universe is just as made-up as Evochron's or the X series.

Sidenti TaaloAlso, if ED is an MMO, so is Counterstrike. There's only 32 players per instance. It's not like SWTOR or WoW where you actually see a hundred people in one place, or GW2 where you have massive WvW battles. The most a player's ever going to get under the current structure is 16v16. EL can host up to 35 on a multiplayer server, and I'm not dependent on Frontier's servers (or, more accurately, Amazon's) staying online in order to play.

Sidenti TaaloIf this is Braben's take on a space MMO, I see no point to continuing when I have a game that better suits my needs and playstyle.

BeachwalkerGrounded . . . . 36 hours and counting.
had a major problem with the game yesterday. Everything kept freezing. Couldn't get out of FSD.
So I decided I had to do something.
Big mistake.
Started messing around with the computer, trying to clean things up, make it faster.
After that I couldn't get into the game at all. So I decided to do a reinstall. Searched for Hours, looking for the original installation disk.
Eventually I gave up and eventually decided to buy Elite: Horizons.
Problem solved. . . . . . .?!?!?!?
Logged on. Downloaded. Installed. Perfect!
Press PLAY . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Wait . . . . . . . . Wait. . . . . .
Enter COMMANDER name . . . . . Beachwalker
Sorry, that name is taken. . . . . . Choose another.
Nooooooooooo

Eventually, I managed to find a name nobody else had, and started up.

I was back to square one. 1000 credits, a stock Sidewinder with only 2 ton cargo space. Stuck on a planet with little hope of ever archiving anything within the next couple of months.

Have I wasted over 150 hours of my life so far? Is it worth carrying on?
Should I just grit my teeth and carry on? Let this be one of life's little lessons?
Or just give up and have an early night?

Commander Beachwalker R.I.P.

Sidenti Taalo

Srk Rabbit

Sidenti TaaloI have a question.

If a team of one coder, one modeler and maybe one other person helping the other two can create a feature-complete space-sim that's offline-capable as well as multiplayer-friendly, offers planetary landing and exploration regardless of atmosphere (don't try exploring gas giants unless you know what the hell you're doing though!), city and station building/ownership, all the sandbox staples, AND does so in a package that's less than 400MB thick... why is taking David Braben, his staff of 260 employees, and a much larger pile of cash comparatively 10 seasons to offer much less functionality?

I would seriously like to know why that is.

(I'm talking about Evochron Legacy. Check it out if you haven't. It's $25 on Steam.)

Evochron is not an MMO so can not be compared in the same way. Multiplayer v. MMO is a whole different ball game in terms of design, implementation, and potential issues.
---
Evochron Mercenary does not appear to have the fidelity of ED even though it is still pretty good. Then there is the point that FD are trying to recreate our Solar System while Evochron (like most space games) is most likely not specifically interested in the finer points of aligning with the real universe.
---
Also it is worth keeping mind that typically the more people you have in a given team, the less productive the team is per person normally (at least up to a point). There are things that can be done to manage and minimise the issues but it is not a simple straightforward matter normally.

In all of Elite Dangerous, only ONE system is realistically modeled - Sol. The graphics can look sharp all day long, but beyond Sol the ED universe is just as made-up as Evochron's or the X series.

Also, if ED is an MMO, so is Counterstrike. There's only 32 players per instance. It's not like SWTOR or WoW where you actually see a hundred people in one place, or GW2 where you have massive WvW battles. The most a player's ever going to get under the current structure is 16v16. EL can host up to 35 on a multiplayer server, and I'm not dependent on Frontier's servers (or, more accurately, Amazon's) staying online in order to play.

If this is Braben's take on a space MMO, I see no point to continuing when I have a game that better suits my needs and playstyle.

Sidenti TaaloI have a question.

If a team of one coder, one modeler and maybe one other person helping the other two can create a feature-complete space-sim that's offline-capable as well as multiplayer-friendly, offers planetary landing and exploration regardless of atmosphere (don't try exploring gas giants unless you know what the hell you're doing though!), city and station building/ownership, all the sandbox staples, AND does so in a package that's less than 400MB thick... why is taking David Braben, his staff of 260 employees, and a much larger pile of cash comparatively 10 seasons to offer much less functionality?

I would seriously like to know why that is.

(I'm talking about Evochron Legacy. Check it out if you haven't. It's $25 on Steam.)

Brenner Soriah

Ozram

That's not so easy to change at the moment. May want to wait for another patch version, when FD implement some more changes to how player factions work. Anyway, good luck with that. I'm more interested in getting the player minor faction that my buddies got started to thrive. Cheers

A player faction works the same as any minor faction. Since not everyone understands the BGS like some of the top player factions do (we have research teams that spend time in the meta; one player group in particular focused completely on BGS has spread their minor faction to TEN different systems), I listed out PRECISELY what you can do to help. These are proven methods to instigate states of lockdown and civil unrest. It's honestly a lot easier than you may think. You just need numbers to get behind it.