Niccoll DysonHello does anyone know when you can give people in yu squadron the wingman, senior wingman, and veteran roles on your squadron? It justs says "requirements: must be at least days active" But that doesnt tell me anything, and I couldnt figure out a way to specify how long it had to be for each role.

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Niccoll DysonHello does anyone know when you can give people in yu squadron the wingman, senior wingman, and veteran roles on your squadron? It justs says "requirements: must be at least days active" But that doesnt tell me anything, and I couldnt figure out a way to specify how long it had to be for each role.

Hello, it's was a bug. You should see the numbers there now.

Nkizo BaxterI come from Freelancer Discovery server and there was a golden rule of NOT logging out from any sort of interaction, which was a "credit cleaning offense up to banning character".

BUT.

The same server ENFORCED role-playing basics and limited killing spree to very handful of factions (terrorists, agent cells, outright hostility in reputation), unless there was an outright war between certain factions/superpowers with certain rules of engagement, too.


This is why I am in huge criticism of PVP on Elite: Dangerous, because in most (of my) cases there was no piracy but jolly player-killing given there is no active reputation system which sets you hostile to authorities if you pirate too much (on Discovery, reputations were enforced). Where I come from, pirates couldn't attack you but had to interact with you first, pulling a demand - if these were fulfilled, you couldn't be shot as a trader. That is, unless you failed to fulfill demands (such as running away or prolonging the encounter). Trick is, trader also had to engage into interaction if he or she didn't want to give pirate reason card just to butcher him (lack of response was negative response, due to thumb rule). Another reason is the fact Engineering puts certain people in huge disadvantage, while on Discovery Freelancer no such mechanic existed and only your skills gave you advantage in combat. On Elite, you are just rotflstomped should you consider respond to combat invitation.

I pirated on Discovery Freelancer for years before I got Elite: Dangerous and those were golden times: running away from authority players, surprising traders in least expected places, having rush of adrenaline while passing with loot through the hostile pirate territory...  Same I cannot say for Elite: Dangerous sadly, because there is little to no interaction from either side (at least talking from experience on Xbox), with PKers flying around without a single word... but that is my own opinion as sort of habit taken from different game which played by different rules.

And before you ask, yes, Discovery relied on PVP + PVE as roleplaying server with 24/7 PVP interaction (which wasn't combat only), but it was way smaller AND everyone had to obey strict roleplay regulations. Piracy and Trading were most worth it due to high value of ores... but at the same time there was no dynamic economy and each region had demand on certain resources until certain special events. Unlike on ED, there were no bounties from killed NPCs either (those were given by other players upon registering on certain boards) and trading was the only reasonable way to earn credits to your different characters.

Oh, and something that I'd love ED had: credits piracy -  on Discovery it couldn't be ridiculous like 4x times of cargo value however. But in the end, you don't know how much it would change on Elite: Dangerous if you just could ask trader for credits or use Recon Limpet for hacking NPC and Commander bank accounts.

ZentzlbIts funny that you are trying to defend combat logging by arguing a lack of RP but the vast majority of combat logs are committed by CMDRs in engineered, large combat vessels in res sites and CZs where PVP is supposed to happen.

Igneel PrimeLeaving the game mid combat should be punished. Maybe not exactly always with an instant ban as there can be misinterpretations (I've been in that situation myself) but at the very least with a rebuy screen. For that the timer is too short. I think I already mentioned this a while ago. EVE has a 5-10 minute timer depending on whether it was PvE or PvP...