Amata Lirein

Igneel PrimeThe Triglavians aren't a player faction. They're basically EVE's version of thargoids. Not as organic and more of a borg vibe but you get the idea. The story in EVE is far less important than in elite as the real story is what the players make. We talk about Feds and Empire potentially going to war and Rochester betraying the Federation while in EVE nobody gives a damn and just shoots at other people and the big story of the day is shit posting the other group's move on reddit. The here to ruin your game thing was from players and while it does sound evil, the way you put it makes it sound far worse than it is for any sane being. Since we'vehad this discussion before I won't make it another thousand words about it just being internet space ships.

As someone who roleplayed in EvE I need to disagree on one thing: The Amarr-vs-Minmatar and Gallente-vs-Caldari storylines were taken very seriously back in my days... but back then it was the "Empyrean Age"...



I even have that novel here. It's a very good read, highly recommended.

Igneel Prime

Amata Lirein

Igneel PrimeThe Triglavians aren't a player faction. They're basically EVE's version of thargoids. Not as organic and more of a borg vibe but you get the idea. The story in EVE is far less important than in elite as the real story is what the players make. We talk about Feds and Empire potentially going to war and Rochester betraying the Federation while in EVE nobody gives a damn and just shoots at other people and the big story of the day is shit posting the other group's move on reddit. The here to ruin your game thing was from players and while it does sound evil, the way you put it makes it sound far worse than it is for any sane being. Since we'vehad this discussion before I won't make it another thousand words about it just being internet space ships.

As someone who roleplayed in EvE I need to disagree on one thing: The Amarr-vs-Minmatar and Gallente-vs-Caldari storylines were taken very seriously back in my days... but back then it was the "Empyrean Age"...



I even have that novel here. It's a very good read, highly recommended.

As much as there are people who take it somewhat seriously (most likely more "back in the day") it doesn't have nearly the impact at least in current day EVE as in Elite. The factions are meaningless for the majority of the game and players

Amata Lirein

Igneel Prime

Amata Lirein



As someone who roleplayed in EvE I need to disagree on one thing: The Amarr-vs-Minmatar and Gallente-vs-Caldari storylines were taken very seriously back in my days... but back then it was the "Empyrean Age"...



I even have that novel here. It's a very good read, highly recommended.

As much as there are people who take it somewhat seriously (most likely more "back in the day") it doesn't have nearly the impact at least in current day EVE as in Elite. The factions are meaningless for the majority of the game and players

Yeah, I know... like I said, back then CCP actually cared about that. Hell, they even played the events from the novel out in the game, damaged stations and all. Then the Nullsec guys complained about not getting all the attention by the devs, resulting in the story being shelved, alongside the WiS/Incarna-project... (I wonder if CCP might revive the latter now that E:D's Odyssey is coming?)

Daiyousei7

Amata Lirein

Igneel Prime



As much as there are people who take it somewhat seriously (most likely more "back in the day") it doesn't have nearly the impact at least in current day EVE as in Elite. The factions are meaningless for the majority of the game and players

Yeah, I know... like I said, back then CCP actually cared about that. Hell, they even played the events from the novel out in the game, damaged stations and all. Then the Nullsec guys complained about not getting all the attention by the devs, resulting in the story being shelved, alongside the WiS/Incarna-project... (I wonder if CCP might revive the latter now that E:D's Odyssey is coming?)

Eve is a shell of what it was back then. I started in 2005 and left when they banned the casinos after the casino war. Things like personal narrative and living in the world are big to me and EVE lost that at some point. They seem to be doing ok financially but I've heard the game is massively dumbed down.

Igneel Prime

Daiyousei7

Amata Lirein



Yeah, I know... like I said, back then CCP actually cared about that. Hell, they even played the events from the novel out in the game, damaged stations and all. Then the Nullsec guys complained about not getting all the attention by the devs, resulting in the story being shelved, alongside the WiS/Incarna-project... (I wonder if CCP might revive the latter now that E:D's Odyssey is coming?)

Eve is a shell of what it was back then. I started in 2005 and left when they banned the casinos after the casino war. Things like personal narrative and living in the world are big to me and EVE lost that at some point. They seem to be doing ok financially but I've heard the game is massively dumbed down.

This. The game is still there and can be massive fun. But at some point it will meet its end. After 17 years total soon to be 18 the game is absolutely not the same. Some of it good some of it bad. And just like GoonSwarm is no longer uncontested with its force and number of titans, EVE is no longer uncontested in its market. Others have been watching and trying their own things. EVE will end up being one of many somewhat similar games struggling to remain unique.

Amata LireinWell then, finally completed Cyberpunk (went for the "The Star"-ending with a romanced Judy), and IMO it is quite easily a hot contender for "Game Of The Year". It has been a veeeeery long time since a game sucked me in this hard because of its awesome story and fun gameplay (its awesome soundtrack doesn't hurt either, Radio Vexelstrom FTW ). Sure, it has flaws (like the final fight of the "Beat-the-brat"-line of sidemissions, that bossfight needs some serious rebalancing ), but overall they are rather minor when looking at the whole thing.

Vinh KruczekTo be honest, Cyberpunk suffered the rushed launch due to something I just call "that moment when shareholders/management threaten developers" (this was the reason why crunch happened in the first place). Especially when you take into account that Poland has had a stealmate with post-1989 agreements that no consecutive government was ever able to solve, due to how barred with pro-employer regulations law is. The most common quote being repeated when gov over here tries to do something against these malicious practice is that "government has no say in what company owner/employer does, as long as we pay taxes".

Privately, this is one of the reasons why I prefer Empire over Federation, because Federation has a lot of lore that reminds me what Poland almost became as rich businessmen were given tools to extort the people willing to work for slave wages, allowing severe abuse towards them while respective authorities just bounce away - able to react only in case of tax evasion and similar cases.

Grecale80Anyone watching for Perseverance landing on Mars?

Sir Sprockett

Grecale80Anyone watching for Perseverance landing on Mars?

i am - nearly there - while I gather rare goods!