Elite: Game talk

15 Nov 2017, 8:00am
Combat logging is never okay to do. If you're in Open, you assume certain risks by being there. If you don't want to face a potential encounter with SRV-smashing gankers, go into Solo or PG. You have options. Combat logging ought not to be one of them.
15 Nov 2017, 8:00am
DamanMainly at CGs you get gankers who do it purely for the 'lolz'.

These are the same people who grab their big ships to splat random SRVs visitong alien sites etc.

For the lolz of course.

I dont condone CL but honestly can understand why someone would do it and wouldnt criticise them for it knowing full well it annoys the gankers, who tend to be dweebs looking for attention and approval of their peer group of snot nosed edgy punks. anyone who spends time on their discords etc knows full well who this group of players are and their real life attitudes which are also pretty foul.

so annoying them is something good.

CLing in any other event i would frown upon.


Wow. just wow.... I am appalled at your attitude and blatant generalisation of a large group of players and your round about way of saying you condone breaching the EULA of the game.

Shame on you.

That being said, I have no problem with someone choosing to grind in PG or solo. just make sure you come back to Open when your done.

Also, what Mr Datura said.


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15 Nov 2017, 8:04am
Daman
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I dont condone CL but honestly can understand why someone would do it and wouldnt criticise them for it knowing full well it annoys the gankers, who tend to be dweebs looking for attention and approval of their peer group of snot nosed edgy punks. anyone who spends time on their discords etc knows full well who this group of players are and their real life attitudes which are also pretty foul.

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This entire line of reasoning is erroneous. You don't know why they "gank."
15 Nov 2017, 8:16am
i do know why they gank. its not hidden. join a few of the discords they hang out in.

Also please read what i said. I dont condone it. I understand it.

And the fact it annoys the gankers no end is a good thing, even if i disagree with the act.
15 Nov 2017, 8:34am
Damani do know why they gank. its not hidden. join a few of the discords they hang out in.

Also please read what i said. I dont condone it. I understand it.

And the fact it annoys the gankers no end is a good thing, even if i disagree with the act.


I have spent time in these channels and as most should know, what is said online is rarely how a person is like in real life, real life behaviours can be gleaned from conversations online but you cannot fully understand someone's motives from them. People take on persona's online, some are genuine but you cannot guarantee it.

I have reread your post and saying you would not criticise them for doing it is saying you condone it just not using the word.

If all you want to do is annoy 'gankers' then you are no better than them.
15 Nov 2017, 8:41am
Whether we like it or not, random ganking is within the rules of the game. Combat Logging is not - it's cheating.

It's as simple as that.
15 Nov 2017, 8:41am
Renraiku
Damani do know why they gank. its not hidden. join a few of the discords they hang out in.

Also please read what i said. I dont condone it. I understand it.

And the fact it annoys the gankers no end is a good thing, even if i disagree with the act.



I have spent time in these channels and as most should know, what is said online is rarely how a person is like in real life, real life behaviours can be gleaned from conversations online but you cannot fully understand someone's motives from them. People take on persona's online, some are genuine but you cannot guarantee it.

I have reread your post and saying you would not criticise them for doing it is saying you condone it just not using the word.

If all you want to do is annoy 'gankers' then you are no better than them.


Of course. Casual racism etc online does not mean someone is actually a racist etc. etc.

trying to separate online behaviour in general chat from irl behaviour is the justification for all the abuse you find on twitter and other platforms, and its just a bs excuse for avoiding responsibility.

Whatever man. we disagree. at least read my post properly. i never said all i want to do is annoy gankers. and i explicitly said i dont condone it. you can disagree with an action, while understsnding why it was done and deciding not to criticise the one doing it due to various factors involved.

edit - i edited last line on my original post to try to make it clearer based on your advice. Thanks.


Last edit: 15 Nov 2017, 9:09am
15 Nov 2017, 8:54am
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15 Nov 2017, 9:20am
Daman
Renraiku
Damani do know why they gank. its not hidden. join a few of the discords they hang out in.

Also please read what i said. I dont condone it. I understand it.

And the fact it annoys the gankers no end is a good thing, even if i disagree with the act.




I have spent time in these channels and as most should know, what is said online is rarely how a person is like in real life, real life behaviours can be gleaned from conversations online but you cannot fully understand someone's motives from them. People take on persona's online, some are genuine but you cannot guarantee it.

I have reread your post and saying you would not criticise them for doing it is saying you condone it just not using the word.

If all you want to do is annoy 'gankers' then you are no better than them.



Of course. Casual racism etc online does not mean someone is actually a racist etc. etc.

trying to separate online behaviour in general chat from irl behaviour is the justification for all the abuse you find on twitter and other platforms, and its just a bs excuse for avoiding responsibility.

Whatever man. we disagree. at least read my post properly. i never said all i want to do is annoy gankers. and i explicitly said i dont condone it. you can disagree with an action, while understsnding why it was done and deciding not to criticise the one doing it due to various factors involved.


That doesn't change that fact it exists and i am not defending it.  I don't believe we fully disagree. I do believe the context of my posts may not be fully realised. I did not accuse you of just annoying gankers, i said if that is all you want to do, making a point that they are similar. Your wording was ambiguous with regard to condoning combat logging.

I am merely pointing out that combat logging should never be condoned as there are other play options to consider before breaking the EULA.


Last edit: 15 Nov 2017, 9:28am
15 Nov 2017, 9:29am
sure. apologies for any cross wires.

Definitely there are other options.

They can logoff to main menu once interdiction starts. 15 seconds they should be long gone before being attacked. it seems to me they put this option in to allow people to escape gankers but not allow people who try to cl because they are losing a fight.

Or use the block button.

Or just learn how to high wake.

Or fly with a wing.

At the end of the day its just a game. If someone chooses to grief so be it. And if someone chooses to cheat so be it - it is up to fdev to decide appropriate sanctions.

Its really not a big deal.
15 Nov 2017, 9:32am
Damansure. apologies for any cross wires.

Definitely there are other options.

They can logoff to main menu once interdiction starts. 15 seconds they should be long gone before being attacked. it seems to me they put this option in to allow people to escape gankers but not allow people who try to cl because they are losing a fight.

Or use the block button.

Or just learn how to high wake.

At the end of the day its just a game. If someone chooses to grief so be it. And if someone chooses to cheat so be it - it is up to fdev to decide appropriate sanctions.

Its really not a big deal.


Agreed.
15 Nov 2017, 12:18pm
DamanIts really not a big deal.


Nope. But as one can see, there are always people thinking they own the right to make it into something major.

Now where's that block button again...
15 Nov 2017, 3:50pm
Hi All,

Just picked up my second Elite today (trade) and I now want to get serious about working on my combat ranking. I'm currently at 66% Expert. I've been using a Vulture set up for High/Haz RES farming but due to the comparative/scoring mechanics of the game, the number of kills required to up ,my rank percentages is making this a bit of a grind.

I've just bought and kitted out a combat FDL but wanted everyone's thoughts on the best way to move my ranking on...compromised Nav - CZs - Haz RES - Anarchy systems?

Many thanks in advance
15 Nov 2017, 3:51pm
Wibs3667Hi All,

Just picked up my second Elite today (trade) and I now want to get serious about working on my combat ranking. I'm currently at 66% Expert. I've been using a Vulture set up for High/Haz RES farming but due to the comparative/scoring mechanics of the game, the number of kills required to up ,my rank percentages is making this a bit of a grind.

I've just bought and kitted out a combat FDL but wanted everyone's thoughts on the best way to move my ranking on...compromised Nav - CZs - Haz RES - Anarchy systems?

Many thanks in advance


CZ's

But if you're just pursuing combat rank, it's going to be a grind whichever way you do it.

If I may suggest, enjoy taking the time to hone your combat skills. Experiment with engineered mods, do a little PvP, roleplay a bounty hunter, pirate or communist insurrectionist - as long as your shooting things that are near to your own combat rating, it'll gradually tick up
15 Nov 2017, 4:04pm
Most, if not all the gankers I know and fly with have been playing so long combat logging doesn't really bother them that much. Sure, it's cheating and lame and we're not afraid to have words with folks that promote it but if you think it's ruining our fun?

Sorry, you're wrong.

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