Elite: Game talk

18 Oct 2017, 8:20am
JbshadowI've got question for the Salvage ships/Scavengers out there, what are the best types of signal sources to look for if I want to salvage commodities to sell legally and illegally?


these are the ranks of USS's for ya lowest top best bottom

Combat aftermath

degraded emissions / the odd threat 0 distress call

encoded emissions

high grade emisions
18 Oct 2017, 8:21am
JbshadowI've got question for the Salvage ships/Scavengers out there, what are the best types of signal sources to look for if I want to salvage commodities to sell legally and illegally?


Degraded Emissions and Combat Aftermath, generally.
18 Oct 2017, 8:39am
If i would be stretching and applying creative science.....

I would combine 2 formula's:

-  Mass  ⁓⁓ Gravity (that's why we have gravity on earth, because of the mass of the earth)

-  E = mc2.....  The amount of energy which is stored in a mass, so if we turn it around =>  m = E/c2

now if you would would be able to raise the energy stored in a object (metal seems to be very viable), you would be able to artificially raise the mass, and therefor the gravity of the main object.... I just would hate to think which amount of energy would be required......then again...if you can let a 1000 ton spaceship fly at 600c, i guess we have already a substantial amount of energy  

I still think some metallic dust in spacesuits and shoes would do wonders together with magnetism


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18 Oct 2017, 9:54am
Mass === Mass
Weight = Mass x Gravity (in very simplistic terms)

Weight is what we feel, mass is what we is — the lower the gravity the lighter we feel. Which is why I think the Earth's gravity is getting stronger 'cos I sure feel heavier and we all know that curry and bacon rolls are slimming and so I should be feeling lighter...
18 Oct 2017, 9:59am
Tigon OlogdringMass === Mass
Weight = Mass x Gravity (in very simplistic terms)

Weight is what we feel, mass is what we is — the lower the gravity the lighter we feel. Which is why I think the Earth's gravity is getting stronger 'cos I sure feel heavier and we all know that curry and bacon rolls are slimming and so I should be feeling lighter...

lol....but if we look at the increase of your mass, your increase of mass increases your gravity....so you attract more ...uhm..curry and bacon towards you ....:p



But uhm...didn't mention weight....what i referring to was that if you increase mass, you increase gravity, and then i mean of the spacestation....it's not equal , but there is a corrolation....now your own weight is your mass x gravity exerted by the spacestation (increased with extra energy for extra mass)



now the formula of gravity is somehow ⁓⁓  (m1*m2)/d2....replace m2 of the spacestation with E/c2: [m1*(E/c2)]/d2 so if you increase the energy contained in the metal of the spacestation, you could artificially raise the mass, and therefor the gravity that pulls on the objects


Last edit: 18 Oct 2017, 10:13am
18 Oct 2017, 9:59am
Can confirm scientifically that on a Monday morning, the gravity around one's bed is 6x that of normal gravity.
18 Oct 2017, 10:34am
Would just like to point out that while mass is a factor in gravitational pull, density is a much greater factor.

For example the star Betelgeuse is approximately 11.6 solar masses, and is estimated to be around 8.9AU in diameter (For reference, one Solar Mass is equal to the mass of Sol, and one AU is the distance from Earth to the Sun). This diameter means that, if you were to insert it into our own system in the place of our sun, it would extend beyond Jupiters orbit, but not quite as far as Saturns. However, the star itself, exerts very little in the way of gravitational pull. Relative to Earth, yes, its pull is immense. However observations of interstellar objects have shown that Betelgueses presence often has little to no impact on the direction such objects follow.

By comparison, a Neutron Star weighing a measly 1.5 Solar Masses, can affect such objects by a considerable amount and from quite far away. In fact, putting such an object in place of our own sun again, would cause Mercury and Venus to divert their orbits and collide with the star, with the possibility of Earth following suit.

You mention the space stations, which definitely have significant mass. However, it should be noted that much of their occupied space is taken up by air. That cavernous hangar bay for example. This basically means that in terms of density, the station is a balloon compared to many stellar bodies.

As for the math, I can see the logic behind your thinking. I'm not convinced it works like that however, as energy has no mass and therefore, increasing the energy of something shouldn't have an impact on said objects mass. But then, I'll say it before someone else does, I'm no expert...
18 Oct 2017, 10:46am
Luke3107Would just like to point out that while mass is a factor in gravitational pull, density is a much greater factor.

For example the star Betelgeuse is approximately 11.6 solar masses, and is estimated to be around 8.9AU in diameter (For reference, one Solar Mass is equal to the mass of Sol, and one AU is the distance from Earth to the Sun). This diameter means that, if you were to insert it into our own system in the place of our sun, it would extend beyond Jupiters orbit, but not quite as far as Saturns. However, the star itself, exerts very little in the way of gravitational pull. Relative to Earth, yes, its pull is immense. However observations of interstellar objects have shown that Betelgueses presence often has little to no impact on the direction such objects follow.

By comparison, a Neutron Star weighing a measly 1.5 Solar Masses, can affect such objects by a considerable amount and from quite far away. In fact, putting such an object in place of our own sun again, would cause Mercury and Venus to divert their orbits and collide with the star, with the possibility of Earth following suit.

You mention the space stations, which definitely have significant mass. However, it should be noted that much of their occupied space is taken up by air. That cavernous hangar bay for example. This basically means that in terms of density, the station is a balloon compared to many stellar bodies.

As for the math, I can see the logic behind your thinking. I'm not convinced it works like that however, as energy has no mass and therefore, increasing the energy of something shouldn't have an impact on said objects mass. But then, I'll say it before someone else does, I'm no expert...


Valid points...the main problem with my creative(!) theory is that you need to insert that energy into the mass....the question would then be...how much energy....and at the sametime not to raise the density too much...but.....in the case of your star-examples...the d2 already compensates for the diamter of your star-samples....


Now one of the things science has been facing is the unification of energy.... with that, (for the non-science oriented) i mean having 1 energy form to unify  thermodynamic, electromagnetic, etc into 1 energy form....

then again this is more sound than HHGG/H2G2 way of propulsion (for the non-read into, propulsion based on chance that something doesn't happen)

(HHGG =H2G2= Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, a trilogy in 5 parts )


Last edit: 18 Oct 2017, 10:54am
18 Oct 2017, 10:49am
Obviously I fail to understand the gravity of the situation.
18 Oct 2017, 11:10am
obviously I need to gravitate to a bar....the larger the drink, the stronger it's pull
18 Oct 2017, 11:36am
Draxxa Kireth[quote=Luke3107]Would just like to point out that while mass is a factor in gravitational pull, density is a much greater factor.
*snip*
Valid points...the main problem with my creative(!) theory is that you need to insert that energy into the mass....the question would then be...how much energy....and at the sametime not to raise the density too much ...but.....in the case of your star-examples...the d2 already compensates for the diamter of your star-samples....*snip*


Oh for sure, for sure. No argument here of course. Just thought I'd point out the missing part of your original statement. It's a small distinction I know, but a very important one
18 Oct 2017, 11:37am
Silver Tafferobviously I need to gravitate to a bar....the larger the drink, the stronger it's pull


start ordering...line them up is even better :p
18 Oct 2017, 12:26pm
The FSD must have some sort of gravitational/inertial effect, otherwise everyone would simply be pate. (which is like spreadable bacon)
18 Oct 2017, 12:43pm
Tigon OlogdringThe FSD must have some sort of gravitational/inertial effect, otherwise everyone would simply be pate. (which is like spreadable bacon)


paté
18 Oct 2017, 1:20pm
Remlock is the suit.... I thought it was just the helmet. .... Helmet Thrusters???? hmmmm?

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