Elite: Game talk

Draxxa Kireth
18 Nov 2017, 5:40pm
NFC PhistoSounds like frag cannons with the red weapon modifier or the incendiary effect (or both). Massed overcharged or double shot frags have very high DPS (and with premium ammo, they're even deadlier!) and can rip through shields with ease.


Sounds plausible...but i thought frags where useless against shields? i was really surprised he took out my prosmatic shields in 2 go's......

was a funny situation...i saw him firing, i saw the dispersion, i laughed because i thought frags had little effect...and then it tore half my shields away.....i remember thinking "No Way!" ....and he did it again...saw again the red dispersion flying by.........
Daman
18 Nov 2017, 5:44pm
incendiary deals thermal damage

double shot - kills everything
User23543
18 Nov 2017, 5:56pm
Damanincendiary deals thermal damage

double shot - kills everything


Yup.

Draxxa, care to share your shield stats? Ship? Any engineering on that stuff? Might be able to help for next time. Did they get you?
Draxxa Kireth
18 Nov 2017, 6:09pm
NFC Phisto
Damanincendiary deals thermal damage

double shot - kills everything



Yup.

Draxxa, care to share your shield stats? Ship? Any engineering on that stuff? Might be able to help for next time. Did they get you?



Sure, appreciate it, always eager to learn:

trying some weapon loadouts for my FDL, but here are my stats on Shipyard


My shields: 1128 , 50% thermal resistance, 22.4% Kinetic, 47 % Explosive

In any case...it's diffcult to find a proper loadout, becasue you can encounter so many situations....i try to mix it for larger and smaller ships..a middle of the road solution...

But i will try a 4a Frag canon with double shot incindiaries on my FDL   first lesson...there are no Class 4 Frags

No he didn't take me out....

Last edit: 18 Nov 2017, 6:24pm
Isaiah Evanson
18 Nov 2017, 6:22pm
Did you have full pips to shields?
Draxxa Kireth
18 Nov 2017, 6:25pm
Isaiah EvansonDid you have full pips to shields?

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Thank you for asking....usually when start engage i go in with 3pips on SYS and 3 on Weapons...due to the shock i can't remember hw the setting was

ARTIE: & Mr SHEEP....thank you for your combat-log!!....

i could see who engaged me with his FDL Frags: Fox99 seems to have some rep

Last edit: 18 Nov 2017, 6:36pm
User23543
18 Nov 2017, 6:29pm
First, good job surviving!

I see your issue right away: 24% kinetic resistance is very low for PvP.  Generally speaking, above 50% resistances for all three categories is solid (once you hit 60%, it's going a little overboard).

I've run a Prismatic Lance since Engineers dropped, and I'd recommend the following for all combat situations:

5A Thermal Resist Prismatic Shield
Resistance Augmented Shield Boosters x 2 (three if you can't Grade Five them yet)
HD Boosters x 2 (or one if you need that extra Resist boosters)
Double chaff (screw you gimbals and turrets!)

My Lance in this configuration boasts 1500 MJ, +50% on thermal and kinetic resists and +60% on explosive resists.  With 135% dirty optimal multiplier and depending on weapon weight and armor she'll boost 510-520 m/s. Add aggressive PIP management into this and it's worked pretty well for me.

Of course I'll tweak it here and there depending on what I want to do, but this can get you started.
Draxxa Kireth
18 Nov 2017, 6:35pm
NFC PhistoFirst, good job surviving!

I see your issue right away: 24% kinetic resistance is very low for PvP.  Generally speaking, above 50% resistances for all three categories is solid (once you hit 60%, it's going a little overboard).

I've run a Prismatic Lance since Engineers dropped, and I'd recommend the following for all combat situations:

5A Thermal Resist Prismatic Shield
Resistance Augmented Shield Boosters x 2 (three if you can't Grade Five them yet)
HD Boosters x 2 (or one if you need that extra Resist boosters)
Double chaff (screw you gimbals and turrets!)

My Lance in this configuration boasts 1500 MJ, +50% on thermal and kinetic resists and +60% on explosive resists.  With 135% dirty optimal multiplier and depending on weapon weight and armor she'll boost 510-520 m/s. Add aggressive PIP management into this and it's worked pretty well for me.

Of course I'll tweak it here and there depending on what I want to do, but this can get you started.


THanks Phisto...always good learning moments.....how did you get actually 50% thermnal & kinetic? os is it just because of the boosters mix?

trying different loadouts...have 3 FDL-s to try...one pure PA, other MIx and other classic loadout...but shields can be indeed better ...

the good is i an see waht is now possible...i thought i had reached my max with shields
User23543
18 Nov 2017, 6:37pm
Booster/shield mix plus very good rolls with Lei Cheung and Didi Vatermann.
Draxxa Kireth
18 Nov 2017, 6:40pm
You guys where right.....FOUR FRAGS!!

This is his Clipper version Fox99....even more happy to have survived...



Last edit: 18 Nov 2017, 6:47pm
User23543
18 Nov 2017, 6:43pm
Ah, the frag Clipper! Got to have gimbals because of the crap HP placement on that thing. Double chaff would've be spraying his shots all over the place non stop.
Draxxa Kireth
18 Nov 2017, 6:48pm
NFC PhistoAh, the frag Clipper! Got to have gimbals because of the crap HP placement on that thing. Double chaff would've be spraying his shots all over the place non stop.


noticed he had in the video a Clipper indeed....with me he had a FDL
User23543
18 Nov 2017, 6:51pm
Hmm, that's right.

Wonder if he went gimbal or fixed on the FDL. Always debated that myself.
Draxxa Kireth
18 Nov 2017, 6:55pm
Considering trying fixed on my fdl... if i can handle p.a..;)

But seriously, was quite impressed... or more shocked
Daman
18 Nov 2017, 7:03pm
personally fixed for frags - max damage. also - if you want pacifier frags they only come in fixed variant. i find them effective against med and larger ships - smaller ones not so much. double shot frags are one of my favorite weapons.

i only use the turrets on the big ships - to catch those flying over you in the face unexpectedly

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