Elite: Game talk

21 Feb 2018, 9:06am
Lyon DeLacyAll tips in regard to staying on the edge of CZ are, of course, taken into account all the times. But sometimes it is truly annoying when three NPCs jump on you out of sudden.


A nice way to build yourself a NPC army is to kill the smallest ships first. That makes your allies concentrate their fire more and more, killing quicker. Then just make sure to fly with the Pack to avoid getting the heat from the respawn.

Only works in CZ without Capital ships though.
21 Feb 2018, 9:07am
Lyon DeLacy
LordPsymonI'd love them to make combat zones, and NPCs in general, harder.



TThey are already way too hard in my opinion. You can be killed in less than thirty seconds using fully outfitted Viper Mk IV, even if you spent plenty of time in-game training strafing. In RES, here's no issues. But CZ are a true hell.

Unless you meant making NPCs harder BUT with considerable bounty adjustment. I still remember when I went through hell with one Master NPC only to get 13k bounty.


Viper Mk IV

That's the issue.
21 Feb 2018, 9:08am
And that's what I had been doing all the time. No matter if I keep with pack or not - NPCs usually tend to focus on me. Either I am that unlucky around CZ or there's some odd bug in the CZs for XB1.

@Cev Rosa I tried Viper Mk III and Vulture as well. Thing is, I was utterly scared to fly Vulture (that over 1 million rebuy yo) and in Viper Mk III the CZ combat ends pretty quick plus I can't use double railgun combo on Viper Mk III. I've been advised not to fly DBs and ASPs around the CZ as well, since they "are not designed for actual combat".
21 Feb 2018, 9:12am
Lyon DeLacyAnd that's what I had been doing all the time. No matter if I keep with pack or not - NPCs usually tend to focus on me. Either I am that unlucky around CZ or there's some odd bug in the CZs for XB1.


No idea on that but regarding your ship choice, if not engineered to the max I'd say you need to go bigger. Probably increases the survivability.

My CZ ship these days is my trusty Corvette. Almost no engineering done on it (until 3.0 arrives).
21 Feb 2018, 9:13am
Your best bet is to do hit and runs in CZ's if you're in a viper. Come in, drop a few baddies, run away once your shields start taking damage, reset instance, rinse repeat.
21 Feb 2018, 9:14am
Welp, can't go bigger because I barely did 30 million. I'd need around 100 million to fully outfit Python. And like I said up, there is no point in getting ASP Scout which has bigger shields and better powerplant, but is also way bigger target to fly around.

Unless I had been told wrong and DBs and ASPs are pretty combat capable ships. But then, ASP Explorer is out of my pocket due to horrendous (so far) rebuys getting over one million credits, whilst I barely do 1.5 million per hour on RESing.
21 Feb 2018, 9:15am
Comes time comes cash?
21 Feb 2018, 9:17am
Lyon DeLacyWelp, can't go bigger because I barely did 30 million. I'd need around 100 million to fully outfit Python. And like I said up, there is no point in getting ASP Scout which has bigger shields and better powerplant, but is also way bigger target to fly around.


A bigger ship isn't really going to help you - your mistakes will only be more expensive and hurt more.

There's techniques for CZ fighting successfully - master these in a smaller ship first, while mistakes are relatively cheap!
21 Feb 2018, 9:21am
Marra Morgan
Lyon DeLacyWelp, can't go bigger because I barely did 30 million. I'd need around 100 million to fully outfit Python. And like I said up, there is no point in getting ASP Scout which has bigger shields and better powerplant, but is also way bigger target to fly around.



A bigger ship isn't really going to help you - your mistakes will only be more expensive and hurt more.

There's techniques for CZ fighting successfully - master these in a smaller ship first, while mistakes are relatively cheap!


What could then replace Railguns I use on Viper Mk 4 in case of Viper Mk 3 with powerplant that pretty much cannot support double Medium Railgun combo? Cannons? Go Medium Multicannons? Vertical outfit (Small Multicannon + Medium Multicannon + Small Pulse/Burst Laser + Medium Pulse/Burst Laser)?
21 Feb 2018, 9:29am
Lyon DeLacy
What could then replace Railguns I use on Viper Mk 4 in case of Viper Mk 3 with powerplant that pretty much cannot support double Medium Railgun combo? Cannons? Go Medium Multicannons? Vertical outfit (Small Multicannon + Medium Multicannon + Small Pulse/Burst Laser + Medium Pulse/Burst Laser)?


Sent you some general CZ tips on PM.

Personally, I cannot advise you on lasors because I'm not a flying disco!

I go for full multicannon setups. For the noise.
21 Feb 2018, 10:01am
Reverend TZW I don't like combat much. Somehow, I'll have to to get to Maia without tripping over any angry Daisies.


As long as you don't drop into Non Human USS's you'll be fine in avoiding Thargoids... Unless they are getting interdiction tech in the next few upgrades..

If I have a go at pirating bromellite will I still be able to give it to that engineer or not?

Just wondering... Watching a video on someone pirating the stuff from another miner in a Lawless system and was wondering...
21 Feb 2018, 10:14am
21 Feb 2018, 2:57pm
Marra Morgan
Lyon DeLacy
What could then replace Railguns I use on Viper Mk 4 in case of Viper Mk 3 with powerplant that pretty much cannot support double Medium Railgun combo? Cannons? Go Medium Multicannons? Vertical outfit (Small Multicannon + Medium Multicannon + Small Pulse/Burst Laser + Medium Pulse/Burst Laser)?



Sent you some general CZ tips on PM.

Personally, I cannot advise you on lasors because I'm not a flying disco!

I go for full multicannon setups. For the noise.



I do like my multicannons.
21 Feb 2018, 3:20pm
Lyon DeLacyWelp, can't go bigger because I barely did 30 million. I'd need around 100 million to fully outfit Python. And like I said up, there is no point in getting ASP Scout which has bigger shields and better powerplant, but is also way bigger target to fly around.

Unless I had been told wrong and DBs and ASPs are pretty combat capable ships. But then, ASP Explorer is out of my pocket due to horrendous (so far) rebuys getting over one million credits, whilst I barely do 1.5 million per hour on RESing.


Vulture.
21 Feb 2018, 3:22pm
Gravi0us

Ha. Well, come join our wing and you won't be alone!


Thank you, but I am happy with my current arrangements. My wing is more of a movement, comprising of pilots from other wings with a common cause

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