SirGamblerOr dont engage unless u know what ur up too(art of war),gaps are exploits and the real wepons for a hardcore,and affects the weak.If fully Fixed Weps,u fire on self decition,how else can it be judged

Lyon DeLacy

I think Frontier should give CMDRs a bigger error gap, like in case of allied ships which tell you "to watch fire", instead of gaining instant bounty and possible HELLO LAWBREAKER BLAM DED.

Lyon DeLacy

Detention Centres. When defeated by authorities, CMDRs with bounties will be forced to pay their rebuy costs, fines, and bounties in full; CMDRs with insufficient funds will go bankrupt and be forced to accept a loaned Sidewinder MkI. They will then respawn at a Detention Centre Megaship in a system near where they were defeated. Detention Centres lack Shipyard and Outfitting facilities, and will spawn CMDRs in Solo instances to protect them from spawn-camping until they jump to Supercruise or another system.

Of all upcoming changes, I am pretty cautionous about that one. We are all been there, hitting authority ship by pure accident and getting destroyed. Now imagine a situation in which you are pushed into detention center and pay a lot of money just because that Viper just appeared out of nowhere between your target and your PA.

I think Frontier should give CMDRs a bigger error gap, like in case of allied ships which tell you "to watch fire", instead of gaining instant bounty and possible HELLO LAWBREAKER BLAM DED.

Giyari"Friendly fire" will require a larger threshold before it triggers, and it's going to be a fine, not a full on bounty, and fines are a lot lower and can be paid off after a short time. So much the same as happens now tbh.

Marra Morgan

Lyon DeLacy

Detention Centres. When defeated by authorities, CMDRs with bounties will be forced to pay their rebuy costs, fines, and bounties in full; CMDRs with insufficient funds will go bankrupt and be forced to accept a loaned Sidewinder MkI. They will then respawn at a Detention Centre Megaship in a system near where they were defeated. Detention Centres lack Shipyard and Outfitting facilities, and will spawn CMDRs in Solo instances to protect them from spawn-camping until they jump to Supercruise or another system.

Of all upcoming changes, I am pretty cautionous about that one. We are all been there, hitting authority ship by pure accident and getting destroyed. Now imagine a situation in which you are pushed into detention center and pay a lot of money just because that Viper just appeared out of nowhere between your target and your PA.

I think Frontier should give CMDRs a bigger error gap, like in case of allied ships which tell you "to watch fire", instead of gaining instant bounty and possible HELLO LAWBREAKER BLAM DED.

Oh it's this topic again!

There are no accidents. Only carelessness

I'm delighted with these changes. I think they will give the professional criminal some additional challenge and decision-making (speaking as one, who's played through the beta).

Giyari"Friendly fire" will require a larger threshold before it triggers, and it's going to be a fine, not a full on bounty, and fines are a lot lower and can be paid off after a short time. So much the same as happens now tbh.

That's right, thresholds will be increased, but it's important that reckless bounty-hunters who are shooting up the police still face the force of the law, and that isn't changing.

Marra Morgan

Oh it's this topic again!

There are no accidents. Only carelessness

PhelboreI don't see the issue... It's been months since I last shot a friendly (I had a little too much whiskey...) Fighting is not just hold the reticle over the guy and hold the trigger down. If your eyes aren't scanning the whole screen and radar every second or so, you need to work on your situational awareness. Know your target, what's behind it and what's around it.

Septimus RavenI think what everybody is hoping for here is the addition of a Sorry, weapon fire was in error. Standing down button, like the X3 games had. Truth be told, that wouldn't be such a bad idea. However... that doesn't change the fact that you did open fire on an innocent target, be it civilian or law enforcement. My advice is... just be careful. And never, ever, ever open fire on anything unless you have confirmed it's wanted. (today alone i had to watch 2 cmdr's getting blown up because they accidentally opened fire too soon)

Lyon DeLacy

Marra Morgan

Oh it's this topic again!

There are no accidents. Only carelessness

PhelboreI don't see the issue... It's been months since I last shot a friendly (I had a little too much whiskey...) Fighting is not just hold the reticle over the guy and hold the trigger down. If your eyes aren't scanning the whole screen and radar every second or so, you need to work on your situational awareness. Know your target, what's behind it and what's around it.

I tend to be very aware about the area around the target. Yet we are speaking about this scenario: You rely on "slower" weaponry, like cannons or PA. When the projectile is fired, a neutral (i.e. Powerplay agents) Viper suddenly comes off screen on full speed and is hit by that projectile by pure accident. What happened next is pretty obvious with all these Anacondas and stuff around. That happened to me yesterday, rendering several million bounty vouchers lost - alongside with two hours in RES.

Lyon DeLacy
I tend to be very aware about the area around the target. Yet we are speaking about this scenario: You rely on "slower" weaponry, like cannons or PA. When the projectile is fired, a neutral (i.e. Powerplay agents) Viper suddenly comes off screen on full speed and is hit by that projectile by pure accident. What happened next is pretty obvious with all these Anacondas and stuff around. That happened to me yesterday, rendering several million bounty vouchers lost - alongside with two hours in RES.

Scubadog 2008The one thing, though, that still seems to be an issue is the lag between confirming the wanted status of a target and you being able to safely engage them. Whether in 2.4 or 3.0, I have run into rare occasions when I didn't wait long enough after them scanning as wanted, opened fire, and got tattooed myself.