Elite: Game talk

Sampi Ogonek
11 May 2024, 3:25pm
Shg56
Sampi Ogonek How the heck did you get a hull integrity of 4,715 on a PyMkII? The highest I can get in EDSY is 4,027, if I pack all the slots with G5 HD+DP HRPs. Could you post a link to your EDSY build?


https://edsy.org/#/L=HF00000H4C0S00,L51J-3H0038_00CoPcL600L51J-3H0038_00CoPcL600L51J-3H0038_00CoPcL600L51J-3H0038_00CoPcL600EjHI07P_W0EjHI07P_W0,EAk40CjxH02G_W0EBD10CjwH-2G002P000S_00CjwH-2G002P000S_00CjwG-2G002P000S_00,9opG09I_W0A8cG03K_W0APoG05I_W0AdtG05J_W0ArwG030_W0B8gH03L_W0BNCG05G_W0Bb600,,16yG05I_W023u0013qG05I_W020n0010iG05I_W010iG0BI_W0,PMKII

Hope the link works

It does, thanks. (I made it into an actual link for y’all ⁠)

OK, so it is the effective integrity against thermal damage that is at 4,715.7. When comparing builds, especially AX builds, people usually talk about raw integrity, since Thargoid weapon damage is raw, not thermal.
Goff
11 May 2024, 5:21pm
Are you sure that Thargoids do raw damage? Based on my experience Interceptors and scouts are thermal, thargons are explosives, caustics are self explanatory. That's why I go with reactive.
Meowers
11 May 2024, 6:22pm
DiQueueMeowers - love your "how not do AX" video not tutorial
Lol, someone still remembers it. I hate my voice sometimes...
(but that wasn't the reason for removing the video)
Sampi Ogonek
11 May 2024, 6:45pm
Thinder
11 May 2024, 7:12pm
I keep experimenting with my Python Build, weapons and UTILITY MOUNT are done but I still think there are improvements possible for the OPTIONAL INTERNAL and CORE INTERNAL, for example, I don't need the FUEL SCOOP to do Bounty hunting from my Carrier, then I wonder if it is worth keeping the 5B FRAME SHIFT DRIVE (SCO) when it is possible to gain a few tons by fitting the smallest possible FSD.

EXperimental

It is possible to gain 17.5 t just by mounting a 2D FSD, I got one 3D FRAME SHIFT DRIVE in my Corvette, impossible to jump to the next system with her but I don't need it and eventually I can fit the old one. Gain in weight = more maneuverability.

Stats before the swap.


Stats after swapping to a 2D FSD.


No Fuel Scoop.


So obviously, depending on the gross weight of your ship, some optimization measures won't work that well, but even if it doesn't look like much gain, a few °/sec gains make a difference, you'll feel it when flying your ship.

Last edit: 11 May 2024, 8:22pm
Goff
11 May 2024, 7:28pm
Sampi OgonekAXI say Thargoid weapons ignore all resistances, except for caustic damage weapons[/url] and that Thargon kamikaze appear to do collision damage (although I’ve also seen people claim Thargon damage is explosive). I assume the AXI know more about this stuff than I do


Now it goes again. What is AXI where and when that AXI got the information about goids weapons? To me it is hearsay being copied over and over again. You are using EDSY right and did you ever ask yourself a question why is raw damage equals to caustic? Do goids shoots caustic energy projectiles at you? No, they don't it is clear that they are using energy weapons something like instant plasma which are thermo. Thargons are doing explosive damage so that's why when you got the whole load of them, they do much more damage since most of axi ships are tuned for raw aka caustic. Good hunting
Kasumi Goto
11 May 2024, 7:41pm
If you're so inclined to write off thorough research and testing from pretty much the Thargoid hunting group, then go ahead and stick to your beliefs.

And if you want to look at Thargoid weaponry from a "lore" perspective, then you can simply say their energy weapons are potent enough that no human protection, short of throwing as many bulkheads to reinforce overall hull structure as possible on, works as a defense against their weaponry. (On the subject, there is doubt which persists on whether "caustic" refers to the actual guns or just the missiles and death clouds.)

... additionally, my own experience of getting shot by a Hydra while caught in (another's) lightning doesn't make me think the thermal resistance of my armor is doing anything to reduce the damage.

Meowers
Lol, someone still remembers it. I hate my voice sometimes...
(but that wasn't the reason for removing the video)

It's not the "How not to fight a Hydra" video? (I went digging through that gallery a while ago)
Meowers
11 May 2024, 7:58pm
Kasumi GotoIt's not the "How not to fight a Hydra" video? (I went digging through that gallery a while ago)
Yeah, this one. It was too long and too stupid, even for a concept of 'one of my first Hydra kills played on shitty sticks with 0.2 deadzone'. :p
Sampi Ogonek
11 May 2024, 9:20pm
Shg56You are using EDSY right and did you ever ask yourself a question why is raw damage equals to caustic?

Assuming s/damage/integrity/, I don’t have to ask myself this question, the answer is too obvious. EDSY states clearly enough that caustic resistance is 0.0%. You’d have to fit a Guardian HRP to change that.

Shg56Do goids shoots caustic energy projectiles at you? No, they don't it is clear that they are using energy weapons something like instant plasma which are thermo.

… You do realize that plasma accelerators do mostly absolute damage, do you?

(As for “where and when that AXI got the information”, Kasumi Goto already responded above.)
Thinder
11 May 2024, 9:24pm
Meowers[quote=Kasumi Gotoplayed on shitty sticks with 0.2 deadzone'. :p


That's the problem I have now, my TWCS Throttle Rocker is dead, the play is has make precision in the Yaw axis impossible especially since I use fixed weaponry, I can't wait to get a new one... Or TFRP RUDDER PEDALS...




Last edit: 11 May 2024, 9:37pm
Kasumi Goto
11 May 2024, 9:26pm
Sampi Ogonek(As for “where and when that AXI got the information”, Kasumi Goto already responded above.)

I was also going to go into greater detail, but you beat me to some of it(and said basically what I was going to). But I said what I had to on this subject, so I'll leave that here.
Meowers
11 May 2024, 9:37pm
ThinderThat's the problem I have now, my TWCS Throttle Rocker is dead, the play is has make precision in the Yaw axis impossible especially since I use fixed weaponry, I can't wait to get a new one...
Yeah. I play(-ed) with two Thrustmaster T16000M's and the latest batches of those aren't exactly known for their longevity. Classic case of cutting the manufacturing costs: now I have two early production ones and they're okay. So, AX, being more demanding than ships-vs-ships PvE, caused my first pair to destabilise and lose the 'zero' point by the time I progressed from Cyclopes to Hydras, and I'm not the best shot in the Galaxy anyway. Ended up being an ultimate stupidity.
Thinder
11 May 2024, 11:05pm
Meowers
ThinderThat's the problem I have now, my TWCS Throttle Rocker is dead, the play is has make precision in the Yaw axis impossible especially since I use fixed weaponry, I can't wait to get a new one...

Yeah. I play(-ed) with two Thrustmaster T16000M's and the latest batches of those aren't exactly known for their longevity. Classic case of cutting the manufacturing costs: now I have two early production ones and they're okay. So, AX, being more demanding than ships-vs-ships PvE, caused my first pair to destabilise and lose the 'zero' point by the time I progressed from Cyclopes to Hydras, and I'm not the best shot in the Galaxy anyway. Ended up being an ultimate stupidity.


I didn't know about the changes in their built quality.

I also use a Warthog stick and there are a few issues with it too.

Fist, the stick can twist by a few mm on its vertical axis, it affects precision flying, then the thumb operated side button isn't exactly well designed either.
I was expecting a lot more for this sort of price.
DiQueue
11 May 2024, 11:15pm
Meowers
DiQueueMeowers - love your "how not do AX" video not tutorial

Lol, someone still remembers it. I hate my voice sometimes...
(but that wasn't the reason for removing the video)


Now that explains why I did not find it any more... I liked it.
Meowers
11 May 2024, 11:30pm
DiQueueNow that explains why I did not find it any more... I liked it.
Kind of, a summary of factors. Goofiness is funny unless it's 30 minutes long, then, some ppl started thinking I'm really that bad, lol, and I moved onto a different Google account, and the production quality of my later stuff is a little better in general, and, yeah, sometimes I hate how does my voice sound on recordings lol. And, yeah, I never wanted to be a 'video content creator' etc.

But, uh. Thanks. For liking that piece of garbage, lol. :p

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