Elite: Game talk

02 Dec 2020, 10:51am
Gankers will always be gankers and the only thing they care about is to execute a kills =+ kills; instruction Weak victims are their delicatessen.
02 Dec 2020, 10:57am
True, but all the little extras add up and give your build its character. FDev's approach to game balancing is to introduce antidotes to everything. If there's a mod to make a ship faster, there's also one to slow down a ship. If there's silent running, there's also emissive munitions. If there's a shield booster, there's also a way to bypass shields. And so on. So you choose your antidotes based on what you think you will most likely encounter. And if you happen to encounter something you didn't expect, all you can do is pray, lol.

Again, it's very much like war in RL, but it also makes the game very non-casual. If you find that your build doesn't perform as well as you expected, it's back to the drawing table and another round of gathering materials. I once joked that ED is just a companion app; most of the game happens on coriolis.io or edsy.org.
02 Dec 2020, 11:07am
Sakashiromost of the game happens on coriolis.io or edsy.org


Well, not most but definitely much, probably too much compared to other games. Personally, I spend much time laying out builds, especially combat ones. In the end, you will have to test and this means grinding for mats. It helps you though to rule out combos that cannot be effective.


Edit: I always support that pvp combat is highly situational; you do not control the rules of engagement so you might be dragged into a fight that is highly unfavorable for the current ship & loadout. Intelligence comes into play


Last edit: 02 Dec 2020, 11:13am
02 Dec 2020, 11:31am
One of the few things this game has in common with EVE lol. Most of the game happens outside the game. I don't have thousands of games of which several have 1k+ hours put into them but I've played a few and half of my browser tabs are taken up by those 2 games lol
02 Dec 2020, 11:58am
Sparlin007Here's my strategy for filling up on most manufactured materials.
1. Go to a station with a manufactured material trader.
2. figure out how much of each material you want to have, minimum. I go with 50, but 30-40 is more realistic.
3. Trade upwards, leaving the minimum* of each material.
4. Take combat missions of any kind.
5. Collect the remains of your victims.
6. repeat 3-5

P.S. one more game chat page until we're at the current year!


Plain bounty hunting at RES or CNB can serve that purpose, too. Or undermining, if you are doing powerplay. That way you do not have to chase signals, which can be annoying if they are 10+ kls away. But you also do not get g5 materials as mission reward.
02 Dec 2020, 12:05pm
Igneel PrimeWhile that is true, I think FSD fast boot in Combat is more of a little extra. It's not like that's the one thing you can do to your ship that makes you so much more effective. That aside... gotta love people who come into games with a massive technical advantage, be that their in-game end game equipment or rl 3k gaming rig, and then brag about how skilled they are when defeating less advanced players.


Phoebious ZGankers will always be gankers and the only thing they care about is to execute a
kills =+ kills;
instruction Weak victims are their delicatessen.


"If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly." Col. David Hackworth (ret)

I don't think you'll find a single military commander that would argue unnecessarily fighting fair is a good idea. Love them or hate them if a Ganker picks a fight where they have the advantage then they are arguably more skilled in this regard than the seals failing to avoid the interaction to begin with.
02 Dec 2020, 12:46pm
Anyone have any ideas why I'm I'm continuously having DC issues while in game?
A little context:
Xbox Series X
1Gbps speed 700-1k depending on house activity
Upload 6-12 fixed by system
Replication: Spontaneously kicked me sitting random "cobra" errors sometimes when exiting hyper space or cruising, sometimes when leaving a station.
Its getting to the point where this is 100000x worse issues then I had during prerelease for ark.
I've reinstalled the game to try and see I'd this helps (no changes)
Ideas?


Post edited/moved by: Artie, 02 Dec 2020, 1:11pm
02 Dec 2020, 12:52pm
Burstar
Igneel PrimeWhile that is true, I think FSD fast boot in Combat is more of a little extra. It's not like that's the one thing you can do to your ship that makes you so much more effective. That aside... gotta love people who come into games with a massive technical advantage, be that their in-game end game equipment or rl 3k gaming rig, and then brag about how skilled they are when defeating less advanced players.



Phoebious ZGankers will always be gankers and the only thing they care about is to execute a

kills =+ kills;

instruction Weak victims are their delicatessen.



"If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly." Col. David Hackworth (ret)

I don't think you'll find a single military commander that would argue unnecessarily fighting fair is a good idea. Love them or hate them if a Ganker picks a fight where they have the advantage then they are arguably more skilled in this regard than the seals failing to avoid the interaction to begin with.


While correct there is one problem with that. The difference between rl and a video game. We play games for entertainment not to prove ourselves as best tactician or whatnot else. Even EVE players understand that concept and they're known for overdoing those kinda things. It's like a sport not a real war that's why fair fights are something that people bother with.
02 Dec 2020, 12:55pm
Anyone has good build for Anaconda (or what is best option) for passenger missions? I got one for Python, but still undecided if that is what I want to build for this. (That would be 3rd Python, as I already have 2 pythons , one multipurpose and other core / sub-surface mining)
02 Dec 2020, 3:39pm
SuperFrogXAnyone has good build for Anaconda (or what is best option) for passenger missions? I got one for Python, but still undecided if that is what I want to build for this. (That would be 3rd Python, as I already have 2 pythons , one multipurpose and other core / sub-surface mining)

what type of passenger missions ?
02 Dec 2020, 3:42pm
Netflix missions flashbacks
02 Dec 2020, 3:54pm
C. archer
Sparlin007Here's my strategy for filling up on most manufactured materials.
1. Go to a station with a manufactured material trader.
2. figure out how much of each material you want to have, minimum. I go with 50, but 30-40 is more realistic.
3. Trade upwards, leaving the minimum of each material.
4. Take combat missions of any kind.
5. Collect the remains of your victims.
6. repeat 3-5

P.S. one more game chat page until we're at the current year!



Plain bounty hunting at RES or CNB can serve that purpose, too. Or undermining, if you are doing powerplay. That way you do not have to chase signals, which can be annoying if they are 10+ kls away. But you also do not get g5 materials as mission rewards.


Yes, RES and CNB can serve the same purpose (I overlooked those), but some mission rewards do offer g5 materials if you're lucky and hard-working. If they don't give g5, you can still trade upwards using those materials. That's why I added "repeat 3-5", instead of 4-5.
02 Dec 2020, 4:23pm
Episparh
SuperFrogXAnyone has good build for Anaconda (or what is best option) for passenger missions? I got one for Python, but still undecided if that is what I want to build for this. (That would be 3rd Python, as I already have 2 pythons , one multipurpose and other core / sub-surface mining)


what type of passenger missions ?


Robigo's Mines missions.
02 Dec 2020, 4:25pm
SuperFrogX
Episparh
SuperFrogXAnyone has good build for Anaconda (or what is best option) for passenger missions? I got one for Python, but still undecided if that is what I want to build for this. (That would be 3rd Python, as I already have 2 pythons , one multipurpose and other core / sub-surface mining)



what type of passenger missions ?



Robigo's Mines missions.


If I recall correctly Robigo Mines is an outpost isn't it?
02 Dec 2020, 4:56pm
Igneel Prime While correct there is one problem with that. The difference between rl and a video game. We play games for entertainment not to prove ourselves as best tactician or whatnot else. Even EVE players understand that concept and they're known for overdoing those kinda things. It's like a sport not a real war that's why fair fights are something that people bother with.


Actually, no. The world of Elite is a combination of Simulator and MMORPG. The reasons we play it are consequently diverse. Some 'DO play it to be the best tactician or whatnot else'. Frankly, joining Open by default means to some extent you want to play that aspect of the game and getting angry at the Gankers for not fighting fair just seems like ire at being outplayed. Don't get me wrong, it's very understandable. I hate it too, but, I do so while admitting to myself that it's my own fault when I have to pay for rebuy regardless of the circumstances.

If people wanted to just play Elite for entertaining space combat that is fair they can easily join CQC. That is what it's there for, but few do precisely because of how little the stakes are, and more notably, how predictable it is.

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