Elite: Game talk

29 Jan 2021, 12:58pm
Short explanation for you to actually understand what I did.

Your build would've run out of cap faster than you can scan a target. With that many lasers firing you need some of them engineered for efficient g5 and the distributor charge enhanced, super condiuts (this is almost always your best choice).

You also had 7C Thrusters. You should always A grade vital components like that and for those in particular Dirty + Drag Drives as engineering upgrades.

A size 6 fighter hangar is really the biggest you will ever need. Also if you get into a PvP scenario or do PvE with friends refrain from using them as they seriously destabilize the instance.

A prismatic shield generator is also not a good idea in PvE and in the case of the Type-10 I'd argue a Bi-Weave is also the better choice in PvP. The reason being the difference in recharge rate. You can't do a lot of PvE even with a prismatic Cutter (thoroughly tested, only way to do it is with heal beam buddies)

This also brings us to utilities. Point Defence is essentially useless (or rather far to niche use to be of use 99.9% of the time). Similar story with the ECM although that is the only thing protecting you from pack hound missiles which gankers like to use. For PvP maybe an idea if you know you're up against those but not much of a point in PvE. Long story short. SHIELD BOOSTERS. Lots of them. One heatsink to deal with the heat from the SCB. What I did here is use a resistance focused build. Low actual HP but high effective HP allowing that 1 SCB to do a lot of work IF you need it at all. That Bi-Weave shield can counter charge a good amount of DPS (also thanks to the resistances)

You can make space for that vehicle hangar somewhere if you want (maybe one of the cargo racks) but it's not necessary.
29 Jan 2021, 1:02pm
Igneel PrimeI realise more and more I don't really like the Type-10 even tho it's a funny brick with guns. This is at least some improvement to your build tho https://s.orbis.zone/b-5d


So turrets then. that looks like a fun build to aim for. I have saved that build. I like it. Thanks for your time

It is a shame that we can not as Commanders build and sell ships....
29 Jan 2021, 1:02pm
Sir Sprockett
Tarin
Sir Sprockett
what do you mean by that?


slow engine
hole in the shield for heat damage
very weak armor
blind sensor
[img=315x42]https://i.imgur.com/fXuzI4Y.jpg[/img]
You will be shot from 5 km and you will not see who did it and you will not be able to escape


you would engineer wide angle sensors? Ok hole in the shield how do you fix that? ANd top end thrusters?



Mr. Igneel Prime gave you a good example. This fixes these problems.
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for Igneel Prime
Phasing sequence?
Maybe a Scramble Spectrum?
29 Jan 2021, 1:09pm
Don't use that build, its complete garbage. An undersized bi weave with full turrets is one of the worst setups in the game. Use this, its actually good https://s.orbis.zone/b-5s
29 Jan 2021, 1:10pm
Sir Sprockett
Igneel PrimeI realise more and more I don't really like the Type-10 even tho it's a funny brick with guns. This is at least some improvement to your build tho https://s.orbis.zone/b-5d



So turrets then. that looks like a fun build to aim for. I have saved that build. I like it. Thanks for your time

It is a shame that we can not as Commanders build and sell ships....
Captin PelleyNEVER downsize a bi weave on a combat ship, especially a c8 vs c7. Also don't use anything besides fast charge or low draw on bi weaves (low draw only if its a massive bi weave and small distro).

NEVER use turrets for dps. the t-10 can easily use mostly gimbaled and some fixed weapons.

I'm not going to go into detail about how garbage that build is, but if you want a half decent t-10 (even though its a good t10, its still bad) here https://s.orbis.zone/b-5s



that looks like a really fun build. (saved it) what do plasma slugs do? Not so clued up with that...
29 Jan 2021, 1:12pm
Plasma slug gives rails nearly infinite ammo for ships with 16-64t fuel tanks, (81 shots to >1000 shots) allows you to use the rails as a secondary dps weapon.
29 Jan 2021, 1:14pm
Captin PelleyPlasma slug gives rails nearly infinite ammo for ships with 16-64t fuel tanks, (81 shots to >1000 shots) allows you to use the rails as a secondary dps weapon.


Why the fuel tanks? What have they got to do with Plasma slugs?
29 Jan 2021, 1:16pm
Plasma slug converts fuel into ammo. The ratio is about 0.022t/shot per rail. You get about 1000 shots from all 3 rails, which compared to 81 stock thats great for sustainable pve builds.
29 Jan 2021, 1:17pm
Captin PelleyNEVER downsize a bi weave on a combat ship, especially a c8 vs c7. Also don't use anything besides fast charge or low draw on bi weaves (low draw only if its a massive bi weave and small distro).

NEVER use turrets for dps. the t-10 can easily use mostly gimbaled and some fixed weapons.

I'm not going to go into detail about how garbage that build is, but if you want a half decent t-10 (even though its a good t10, its still bad) here https://s.orbis.zone/b-5s


Shield can be argued. One problem I see with that build is the ammo. You won't be spending any reasonable amount of time killing with that. Like the fuel rails tho. Been using them myself and they're nice.

If you wanna stay in there for any amount of time you have to use fuel weapons or lasers. Most of the DPS will be gone after some time. The big flaw that ship has is the amount and size of guns. The Anaconda has a similar issue but nowhere near as bad. You just can't power anything reasonable for a long time and have to make compromises. Either you use turreted lasers or you use MCs and rely on ammo.
29 Jan 2021, 1:18pm
While multies do have to rely on ammo, the time you save in dps while killing completely makes up for the restock time.
29 Jan 2021, 1:29pm
My advice: Don't just blindly use someone else's build. Make your own, test it and analyse its flaws, then correct them, step by step. Outfitting is half the game, don't skip it.
29 Jan 2021, 1:31pm
That too. In this case I'd suggest a mix. Take advice from people, see what happens and go from there
29 Jan 2021, 2:01pm
SakashiroMy advice: Don't just blindly use someone else's build. Make your own, test it and analyse its flaws, then correct them, step by step. Outfitting is half the game, don't skip it.


as you say it is part of the game, but I do not fully understand what things all mean so am learning by asking.. ED is also a game about the Community!
29 Jan 2021, 2:11pm
My advice - use type-10 only for mining/hauling and stay away from other commanders.



The best guide to type-10 so far.
29 Jan 2021, 2:13pm
That guide is more for a pvp 1v1mebro build, which is still bad but its the best you are going to get out of a t10. The build I linked is for pve only.

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