Elite: Game talk

06 Mar 2021, 11:29pm
And your point being what exactly? You think the extra few hundred armor points worth it on a shield tank?
06 Mar 2021, 11:43pm
EpisparhAnd your point being what exactly? You think the extra few hundred armor points worth it on a shield tank?


My points: 1) My "noob" build has not just more total armor points, but more resistances to explosive, thermal, and kinetic damage.
2) My "noob" build is heavily based on a pretty well respected ED player's build.
3) Think twice before you deem someone else's build a noob build.
06 Mar 2021, 11:49pm
Sure ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Wasting half billion for few extra points hull on a shield tank makes total sense... Especially while those shields almost never goes down.
07 Mar 2021, 12:01am
EpisparhSure ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Wasting half billion for few extra points hull on a shield tank makes total sense... Especially while those shields almost never goes down.


Now you resort to insults. You are the judge of when the credits of others are wisely spent or not?
07 Mar 2021, 12:05am
Why in the dear sweet name of plasma do you have Corrosive on BOTH of your HUGE multis?

And yes, a few hundred points of armor and more resistances are worth the credits. What else are you gonna do with them?

Anyone who is going cheap on a build because it's 'just a few more points' or 'less rebuy' is someone expecting to lose. Get in it to win it.
07 Mar 2021, 12:15am
SaltedGekWhy in the dear sweet name of plasma do you have Corrosive on BOTH of your HUGE multis?

And yes, a few hundred points of armor and more resistances are worth the credits. What else are you gonna do with them?

Anyone who is going cheap on a build because it's 'just a few more points' or 'less rebuy' is someone expecting to lose. Get in it to win it.


I'm assuming that you are addressing Episparh. I have incendiaries (been thinking about autoloader as an alternative) on my huge MCs. I do have a corrosive on one of my small MCs.
07 Mar 2021, 12:17am
Thanatos au GrimmusI'm assuming that you are addressing Episparh. I have incendiaries (been thinking about autoloader as an alternative) on my huge MCs. I do have a corrosive on one of my small MCs.


Yeah, your build makes sense. I'm scratching my head over his - the bankless shield tank.
07 Mar 2021, 12:21am
Thanatos au Grimmus
EpisparhSure ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Wasting half billion for few extra points hull on a shield tank makes total sense... Especially while those shields almost never goes down.



Now you resort to insults. You are the judge of when the credits of others are wisely spent or not?


Excuse me! Insults?...
Mate, I really do not understand you. Credits are meaningless in this game, but the fact cannot be denied - the shields of the vette drop in very rare occasions. In a case of full banktank the example is even more extreme. And if the shield drops 4k or 5k hull are enough to fly away.
Unfortunately, the price to repair 25% reactive is far more than repairs for lightweight armor.
07 Mar 2021, 12:23am
EpisparhMate, I really do not understand you. Credits are meaningless in this game, but the fact cannot be denied ... Unfortunately, the price to repair 25% reactive is far more than repairs for lightweight armor.


Why are credits still the issue?

Mate, really. I can't understand you.
07 Mar 2021, 12:27am
I put reactive armor on my Mamba, with grade 5 thermal and layered plating, because that gives it a balanced 16/16/17 percent resistance against kinetic, thermal, and explosive damage. On the other hand, I have no HRPs, only MRPs. The reasoning behind it was this: I need at least some hull boost to deal with phasing sequence weapons that bypass shields, and I need increased module integrity to deal with reverb cascade weapons that damage the shield generator even while shields are up.

During the bounty hunting CG the MRPs never came to use. Reverb torps are rare, even in PvP. So I might be better off by replacing the MRPs with SCBs. The reactive armor however I will keep, because phasing weapons aren't rare at all, even some NPCs use them. Besides, unlike HRPs, armor has its own module slot and doesn't occupy any of the optional ones.
07 Mar 2021, 12:31am
Episparh
Thanatos au Grimmus
EpisparhSure ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Wasting half billion for few extra points hull on a shield tank makes total sense... Especially while those shields almost never goes down.




Now you resort to insults. You are the judge of when the credits of others are wisely spent or not?



Excuse me! Insults?...
Mate, I really do not understand you. Credits are meaningless in this game, but the fact cannot be denied - the shields of the vette drop in very rare occasions. In a case of full banktank the example is even more extreme. And if the shield drops 4k or 5k hull are enough to fly away.
Unfortunately, the price to repair 25% reactive is far more than repairs for lightweight armor.



First you called my build a noob build, when in fact, it appears to be better than your build. Then, after you see that my build is better, you take a snipe that I am wasting credits.
07 Mar 2021, 12:32am
SaltedGek
EpisparhMate, I really do not understand you. Credits are meaningless in this game, but the fact cannot be denied ... Unfortunately, the price to repair 25% reactive is far more than repairs for lightweight armor.



Why are credits still the issue?

Mate, really. I can't understand you.


I value my time more. And logic says 0CR cost is better than the actual repair of reactive armor which may provide me with few extra points armor in 0.0005% of the cases where I can benefit from it.
07 Mar 2021, 12:39am
Thanatos au Grimmus[quote=Episparh]
First you called my build a noob build, when in fact, it appears to be better than your build. Then, after you see that my build is better, you take a snipe that I am wasting credits.


You still miss the point, aren't you?
I've said I made same mistake. Now, after a year, I do realize that it was pointless as the shields almost never go down and if they do the added cost for repair/rebuy is significant for the benefits reactive provides.

I still do not understand, why you think I have something against you or your build. If you choose to ignore what I am saying and believe in your numbers I am fine of me being the stupid guy.
07 Mar 2021, 12:42am
Episparh
SaltedGek
EpisparhMate, I really do not understand you. Credits are meaningless in this game, but the fact cannot be denied ... Unfortunately, the price to repair 25% reactive is far more than repairs for lightweight armor.




Why are credits still the issue?

Mate, really. I can't understand you.



I value my time more. And logic says 0CR cost is better than the actual repair of reactive armor which may provide me with few extra points armor in 0.0005% of the cases where I can benefit from it.



I'm not sure how to communicate with you. Credits are not an issue, but they are the issue. Why are you objecting so fiercely and nonsensically to a notable improvement to a ship's hull defenses?
07 Mar 2021, 12:43am
Episparh
Thanatos au Grimmus
Episparh
First you called my build a noob build, when in fact, it appears to be better than your build. Then, after you see that my build is better, you take a snipe that I am wasting credits.



You still miss the point, aren't you?
I've said I made same mistake. Now, after a year, I do realize that it was pointless as the shields almost never go down and if they do the added cost for repair/rebuy is significant for the benefits reactive provides.

I still do not understand, why you think I have something against you or your build. If you choose to ignore what I am saying and believe in your numbers I am fine of me being the stupid guy.



Actually, I don't think you have anything personal against me or my build, but you came across in an insulting manner. And, btw, I do not think you are stupid.

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