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Synthya Wylder

HoleyMcMoleyI'm pondering buying a carrier, but I'm confused by a few suggestions I've seen that it could make it quicker to get to Colonia.
Either this isn't the case or I'm totally misunderstanding carrier jumps.
The wiki says that there's a 15 minute preparation and a 5 minute cooldown. So: no more than 3 jumps per hour, at <= 500 ly each.
That's nearly 15 hours of non-stop jumping to get to Colonia, i.e. massively slower than a normal ship can do it even without neutron-jumping.

So I guess people probably aren't intending to imply that carriers can get to Colonia quicker?

Although I don't own a carrier, I wouldn't get one just for the sake of jumping large distances quickly. The only thing I can see that no other ship can do (think of carriers like your very own mobile station, they're not actually a ship per se) is that they can make a 500 ly jump.

Most decently-built & equipped ships can outpace a carrier, & cost a HUGE amount less to own & operate.

Just my opinion & thoughts on the matter. I'm sure others who actually own a carrier will chime in.

I don't own a carrier, but I did crunch a few numbers that might interest you. A one way trip to Colonia consumes about 11,000 tons of Tritium (more or less depending on how much cargo). 11,000 tons of Tritium is worth about 500M credits.

HoleyMcMoley

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Synthya Wylder



Although I don't own a carrier, I wouldn't get one just for the sake of jumping large distances quickly. The only thing I can see that no other ship can do (think of carriers like your very own mobile station, they're not actually a ship per se) is that they can make a 500 ly jump.

Most decently-built & equipped ships can outpace a carrier, & cost a HUGE amount less to own & operate.

Just my opinion & thoughts on the matter. I'm sure others who actually own a carrier will chime in.

I don't own a carrier, but I did crunch a few numbers that might interest you. A one way trip to Colonia consumes about 11,000 tons of Tritium (more or less depending on how much cargo). 11,000 tons of Tritium is worth about 500M credits.

Thanks for the feedback folks.
I'll probably dip a toe in and perhaps then sell it if I don't enjoy the experience, since it seems to be the case that getting in and out of ownership should cost me well under a billion in lost cash (once I get my 5 billion back of course ).

On the fuel consumption - oh dear! The Wiki appears to be in pretty serious need of attention then - I had estimated more like 3000 tons of tritium (using the wiki statement that an empty carrier needs 68 tons per 500 ly jump).

HoleyMcMoley

Thanatos au Grimmus

Synthya Wylder



Although I don't own a carrier, I wouldn't get one just for the sake of jumping large distances quickly. The only thing I can see that no other ship can do (think of carriers like your very own mobile station, they're not actually a ship per se) is that they can make a 500 ly jump.

Most decently-built & equipped ships can outpace a carrier, & cost a HUGE amount less to own & operate.

Just my opinion & thoughts on the matter. I'm sure others who actually own a carrier will chime in.

I don't own a carrier, but I did crunch a few numbers that might interest you. A one way trip to Colonia consumes about 11,000 tons of Tritium (more or less depending on how much cargo). 11,000 tons of Tritium is worth about 500M credits.

Thanks for the feedback folks.
I'll probably dip a toe in and perhaps then sell it if I don't enjoy the experience, since it seems to be the case that getting in and out of ownership should cost me well under a billion in lost cash (once I get my 5 billion back of course ).

On the fuel consumption - oh dear! The Wiki appears to be in pretty serious need of attention then - I had estimated more like 3000 tons of tritium (using the wiki statement that an empty carrier needs 68 tons per 500 ly jump).

Thanatos au GrimmusBefore taking the plunge, you may want to have a look at this article: https://www.windowscentral.com/elite-dangerous-fleet-carriers-good-bad-needs-improvement

HoleyMcMoley

Thanatos au GrimmusBefore taking the plunge, you may want to have a look at this article: https://www.windowscentral.com/elite-dangerous-fleet-carriers-good-bad-needs-improvement

Thanks for that. I clearly need to do some more homework on this!

SnapStr"This is the Way" CMDR

Meowers

Seriously. Doing Combat rank progression, I feel my skills improving. I've learned some advanced piloting, timing my shots, pip management, "how to use all recharge batteries and don't get fried", even stuffing plasma into power plants and drives, etc. Maybe not the best by far, but it's certainly incomparable to what I did back in Dromi, hunting the easiest of easiest. What 9/10 of Exploration rank gave me? ABGFKMO, ELWs are the biggest money, how to launch probes, how to use FSS (listening to music on the background). 8/10 of Trading? How to mine, buy, sell, supply/demand stuff, how to use third-party resources to find the least outdated info. Maybe it's a problem of game design, that makes combat the most skill-dependent activity, I don't know. I don't feel like I did much of trading and exploration, but rank says otherwise.

Thanatos au GrimmusBefore taking the plunge, you may want to have a look at this article: https://www.windowscentral.com/elite-dangerous-fleet-carriers-good-bad-needs-improvement

And don't even get me started on the depreciation scale. This is Frontier insulting you for second-guessing yourself. Say you get a few weeks in, and you decide the Fleet Carrier isn't for you. Well, guess what, you'll be lucky if you get even 60% of your investment back.

SakashiroI found the neutron highway actually slowing me down. Fastest method for me is to filter the galaxy map for OBAFGKM, and then just jump, scoop, jump, scoop, jump, scoop... almost like auto-pilot. No wrestling with neutron jets, no FSD maintenance, no prolonged scooping because of skips, etc.

Important: Use the largest A-rated fuel scoop your ship can fit. Don't let scooping slow you down. The DBX, despite its jump range, is not ideal for this because its fuel scoop is smaller than its FSD.

Sakashiro

Thanatos au GrimmusBefore taking the plunge, you may want to have a look at this article: https://www.windowscentral.com/elite-dangerous-fleet-carriers-good-bad-needs-improvement

What's the depreciation scale the article talks about? The wiki says voluntarily decommissioning a fleet carrier results in a full refund minus a fixed fee of 125 million Cr. The article however says:

And don't even get me started on the depreciation scale. This is Frontier insulting you for second-guessing yourself. Say you get a few weeks in, and you decide the Fleet Carrier isn't for you. Well, guess what, you'll be lucky if you get even 60% of your investment back.

This implies that if I buy a carrier for 5 billion Cr and decommission it a short time later, I'll get only 3 billion Cr back. If I'm lucky, that is.

Is the wiki wrong? Or is there something I'm missing?

Sakashiro

Thanatos au GrimmusBefore taking the plunge, you may want to have a look at this article: https://www.windowscentral.com/elite-dangerous-fleet-carriers-good-bad-needs-improvement

What's the depreciation scale the article talks about? The wiki says voluntarily decommissioning a fleet carrier results in a full refund minus a fixed fee of 125 million Cr. The article however says:

And don't even get me started on the depreciation scale. This is Frontier insulting you for second-guessing yourself. Say you get a few weeks in, and you decide the Fleet Carrier isn't for you. Well, guess what, you'll be lucky if you get even 60% of your investment back.

This implies that if I buy a carrier for 5 billion Cr and decommission it a short time later, I'll get only 3 billion Cr back. If I'm lucky, that is.

Is the wiki wrong? Or is there something I'm missing?

Thanatos au GrimmusA 5H Guardian FSD booster will essentially give you an additional 42 LY per super-charged jump (4 x 10.5).

Squirty

Thanatos au GrimmusA 5H Guardian FSD booster will essentially give you an additional 42 LY per super-charged jump (4 x 10.5).

Looks like unlocking the guardian FDS booster is my 1st task on returning to the Bubble. :-)

Meowers

SnapStr"This is the Way" CMDR

Seriously. Doing Combat rank progression, I feel my skills improving. I've learned some advanced piloting, timing my shots, pip management, "how to use all recharge batteries and don't get fried", even stuffing plasma into power plants and drives, etc. Maybe not the best by far, but it's certainly incomparable to what I did back in Dromi, hunting the easiest of easiest. What 9/10 of Exploration rank gave me? ABGFKMO, ELWs are the biggest money, how to launch probes, how to use FSS (listening to music on the background). 8/10 of Trading? How to mine, buy, sell, supply/demand stuff, how to use third-party resources to find the least outdated info. Maybe it's a problem of game design, that makes combat the most skill-dependent activity, I don't know. I don't feel like I did much of trading and exploration, but rank says otherwise.