Elite: Game talk

Episparh
12 Sep 2021, 11:26am
Sakashiro

Any comments on the build?

Yes, drop the B rated s*&t, put A rated. Use dirty drag drives and A rated PD that can boost often.

Do not use ECM for torpods but for hatch breaker only when they attach. Range is short and makes it useless.

Edit: I would use PDT if any. But it is clear from my Witch what are my preferences. I used it as long range hauler for my Titan (the cutter I use for mining) before I bought a FC. Instead of swapping prospector and collector for fuel scoop and fsd booster - I used that type-9 to haul to selling station usually 200-300 ly away.

BTW, it overheats a lot that's why I use heatsink.

Torpod speed 250m/s
Hatch breaker speed 300m/s
Sakashiro's gank proof type-9 - 207m/s boost each 9 sec

Last edit: 12 Sep 2021, 11:56am
Sakashiro
12 Sep 2021, 12:46pm
Episparh
Sakashiro

Any comments on the build?


Yes, drop the B rated s*&t, put A rated. Use dirty drag drives and A rated PD that can boost often.

Do not use ECM for torpods but for hatch breaker only when they attach. Range is short and makes it useless.

Edit: I would use PDT if any. But it is clear from my Witch what are my preferences. I used it as long range hauler for my Titan (the cutter I use for mining) before I bought a FC. Instead of swapping prospector and collector for fuel scoop and fsd booster - I used that type-9 to haul to selling station usually 200-300 ly away.

BTW, it overheats a lot that's why I use heatsink.

I'm surprised that the guy who frequently mocks my cardboard shield tank builds recommends A-rated modules on a hull tank. The T-9 even with drag drives can't run away from anything, so shouldn't I make the integrity pool as large as possible?

The PDT advice is welcome. I've used neither ECM nor PDT so far, so I really have no clue what's better. But I guess for good coverage I need at least two PDTs, one on each side of the ship? That means I can equip only two shield boosters.

Again, what I'm trying to do is survive the time it takes for the FSD to cool down and recharge after submitting to an interdiction. From what I understand about reverb torpedoes, these can take a shield generator down, but not necessarily in one shot if the module is double-braced and protected by MRPs. So the shield will be my first line of defense, and hull will be the second. To take me down, the attacker(s) will have to chew through each of those before I get the chance to high-wake.

Maybe I should take the build to Deciat at least once before starting to engineer it. For science.
Episparh
12 Sep 2021, 1:33pm
Sakashiro
I'm surprised that the guy who frequently mocks my cardboard shield tank builds recommends A-rated modules on a hull tank. The T-9 even with drag drives can't run away from anything, so shouldn't I make the integrity pool as large as possible?


Let me stop you here. Type-9 is not a hull tank but a punch bag. This is the reason why you need as much protection as possible. Hence, I use 7A reinforced prismatics.
If your shields drop, the first thing you going to loose is drives - why double braced shield then? (Probably for torpods protection)
Make that shield as best as possible.

Although you cannot run away from average combat ship a type-9 with drag drives and best PD can do ~300 m/s and boost each 5 s. Technically, if you manage to avoid initial torpod/hatch breaker trajectory, you can outrun those while your PD work on them. Frequent boosts can also throw away some grom/PA shots but do not count on that as experienced CMDR will sync shots with boosts and type-9 is huge target.

Finally, your undertaking is pointless and you better not use materials for useless modules with useless engineering mods If you want armored hauler for Open there is just one ship for that and it requires rank of Duke
Sakashiro
12 Sep 2021, 1:50pm
EpisparhIf your shields drop, the first thing you going to loose is drives

Yeah, but how fast? If it takes less than 25 seconds to pop the shield and the drives, then I have a problem.
Louis1970
12 Sep 2021, 3:13pm
Sakashiro


The PDT advice is welcome. I've used neither ECM nor PDT so far, so I really have no clue what's better. But I guess for good coverage I need at least two PDTs, one on each side of the ship? That means I can equip only two shield boosters.



Not necessarily... As long as you don't have weapons, you're on the run anyway... Put it to the rear: turning slightly into the right direction (top or bottom) is not much of a problem... 2 PDTs are useful for more than 3 concurrent hatch breakers which doesn't happen very often...
Sakashiro
12 Sep 2021, 3:15pm
Good to know. Thanks!
Louis1970
12 Sep 2021, 3:19pm
SakashiroGood to know. Thanks!


You're welcome...
Burstar
12 Sep 2021, 3:43pm
Sakashiro
EpisparhIf your shields drop, the first thing you going to loose is drives


Yeah, but how fast? If it takes less than 25 seconds to pop the shield and the drives, then I have a problem.


You make it sound as if waking saves the day. If you high wake your mission to 'trade in Deciat' fails,
if you low wake, you get pulled out again almost certainly in a much poorer condition than the first time = doom.
Sakashiro
12 Sep 2021, 4:23pm
BurstarYou make it sound as if waking saves the day. If you high wake your mission to 'trade in Deciat' fails,
if you low wake, you get pulled out again almost certainly in a much poorer condition than the first time = doom.

Well, that's part of the challenge. Simply passing along the shipping lane won't work. But there are other ways to get to the station.

Besides, if I manage to evade, it'll prove that flying a Courier does teach these things.
Purpsboi
12 Sep 2021, 4:31pm
Hi all. I cant seem to import Frontier data. I keep trying but its been 3 or 4 days now. Is anybody else having the same issue?? Hope one of you knows why.
Burstar
12 Sep 2021, 4:47pm
Sakashiro Besides, if I manage to evade, it'll prove that flying a Courier does teach these things.

No it doesn't. Evading in a T9 has nothing to do with the T9 and everything to do with the Attacker.

PurpsboiHi all. I cant seem to import Frontier data. I keep trying but its been 3 or 4 days now. Is anybody else having the same issue?? Hope one of you knows why.


If you have multiple accounts you might be attempting to login with the wrong account. Have you changed your login recently? If so you might be using old credentials.
Purpsboi
12 Sep 2021, 6:27pm
Burstar
Sakashiro Besides, if I manage to evade, it'll prove that flying a Courier does teach these things.


No it doesn't. Evading in a T9 has nothing to do with the T9 and everything to do with the Attacker.

PurpsboiHi all. I cant seem to import Frontier data. I keep trying but its been 3 or 4 days now. Is anybody else having the same issue?? Hope one of you knows why.



If you have multiple accounts you might be attempting to login with the wrong account. Have you changed your login recently? If so you might be using old credentials.


No, just this account.
Burstar
12 Sep 2021, 6:50pm
Purpsboi No, just this account.


Hmm, what is the error when you attempt to update your information? The only other thing than a credential issue I can think of is that you're playing Horizons which caps your stats at Horizons levels even though the data is in there hidden.
Episparh
12 Sep 2021, 8:04pm
Sakashiro
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Besides, if I manage to evade, it'll prove that flying a Courier does teach these things.


Hauling with type-9 in a popular system is a game of frustration. It have enough shields to high wake out of the system but that is it. You will achieve nothing in the process and a good chunk of materials will be wasted for useless modules with useless mods that cannot be used anywhere else.
Sakashiro
12 Sep 2021, 8:30pm
What else to do in the game?

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