SakashiroI how do you make money to pay for its upkeep
Just be a billionaire. Ez.
On serious note. You should have some funds before going into darkness. Don't see any other way.
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30 Sep 2021, 1:34pm
Just be a billionaire. Ez.
On serious note. You should have some funds before going into darkness. Don't see any other way.
30 Sep 2021, 1:48pm
Tengri UmaiOn serious note. You should have some funds before going into darkness. Don't see any other way.
Making a few millions per week by scanning systems isn't hard. I was just wondering if that's the only option. Apparently it is.
30 Sep 2021, 1:58pm
30 Sep 2021, 2:11pm
August DavenportDescartes"Insufficient power in capacitors?
what does that mean and how can I fix it please?
It means that the power draw for the system in question is too high for the power distribution system to keep up and you've exhausted the power capacitors. y.
Thankyou for your concise answer and suggestions.
Had to reorganise my power supply and distributor at the cost of a little jump range. At least i have a chance of boosting away from attackers n w.
30 Sep 2021, 2:50pm
SakashiroTengri UmaiOn serious note. You should have some funds before going into darkness. Don't see any other way.
Making a few millions per week by scanning systems isn't hard. I was just wondering if that's the only option. Apparently it is.
What I think several do is set up Expeditions on Elite Dangerous Star Map, get folks to jump with you/follow your FC, and have them sell you their data, make repairs, etc. It also makes it easier to get the tritium fuel you need.
30 Sep 2021, 3:13pm
SakashiroTengri UmaiOn serious note. You should have some funds before going into darkness. Don't see any other way.
Making a few millions per week by scanning systems isn't hard. I was just wondering if that's the only option. Apparently it is.
Well, you can mine Tritium and sell it for something like 100k/t. Odds are another FC may buy it if you're in a good area. You'd only need to sell ~200 tonnes / week to pay for the upkeep. It isn't exactly hands off profit but it is an option. You really shouldn't need to make money to pay for its upkeep though. They really are for people that are at the level where you aren't even looking at your Credit level anymore except for arbitrary reasons like 'how fast can I become a trillionaire' or something.
30 Sep 2021, 3:20pm
SakashiroI have a question about fleet carriers: If you use your carrier for exploration and take it out of the Bubble, how do you make money to pay for its upkeep? I know you can install Universal Cartographics as a carrier service and sell exploration data to it, but are there any other options? If I understand fleet carrier commodity markets correctly, any mined commodities you sell to the market on your carrier, you're basically selling to yourself since you represent both sides of the trade. To actually turn those commodities into funds, you have to return to civilization and sell them to others.
You understand correctly. The only way you can make money out in the black is selling at UC at reduced price. I would not suggest dragging commodities around as this will increase your tritium consumption and you BETTER NOT MINE TRITIUM!
Exploring with a FC is daft idea, but if you still want to implement it, just plan it accordingly. Stockpile on CR and plan your tritium consumption before heading out.
30 Sep 2021, 3:45pm
SakashiroEpisparhBETTER NOT MINE TRITIUM!
Why not?
It gives a bad return for mining and it’s dirt cheap. If you want to mine choose a couple of hours in a platinum hotspot and that’ll get you enough cash for a full tritium depot.
30 Sep 2021, 3:46pm
SakashiroEpisparhBETTER NOT MINE TRITIUM!
Why not?
Tritium costs 50-60k per ton so you can buy 5-6t tritium with 1t platinum mined. I do not have numbers, but last time I've checked platinum yield per hour is higher that tritium. So effectively you will waste more time and effort mining tritium than mining platinum and buying tritium.
P. S. Or as Ferengi would say :
"Rule 56487: Each ton tritium mined is platinum lost!"
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30 Sep 2021, 4:12pm
30 Sep 2021, 4:16pm
SakashiroI'm trying to figure out if it's possible to get a carrier and become completely self-sufficient out in the black, i.e. without having to return to civilization (except for vacations) and without one's credit balance bleeding dry. The solution I see is to install Universal Cartographics (and possibly Vista Genomics in the future) and sell data to them, and to mine tritium to remain mobile. Mining platinum is more profitable of course (and so is hauling), but it doesn't work outside populated areas. You have to come home to sell it.
As you present it, it might not be worthwhile solo, but could be with an expedition, squadron, or group working from one FC. The more folks you have churning out data, the easier time you'll have being in the accounting black while exploring the black.
30 Sep 2021, 4:24pm
August Davenport As you present it, it might not be worthwhile solo, but could be with an expedition, squadron, or group working from one FC. The more folks you have churning out data, the easier time you'll have being in the accounting black while exploring the black.
Ms Davenport makes a good point. Consider visiting Fleet Carrier Owners Discord and/or EDSM to keep an eye out for planned expeditions. You could either position the FC accordingly or offer your services to get 'official support'. Unfortunately ED:O has soured all planned large scale expeditions afaik, but, this is old info so things may have changed.
30 Sep 2021, 4:26pm
SakashiroI'm trying to figure out if it's possible to get a carrier and become completely self-sufficient out in the black, i.e. without having to return to civilization (except for vacations) and without one's credit balance bleeding dry. The solution I see is to install Universal Cartographics (and possibly Vista Genomics in the future) and sell data to them, and to mine tritium to remain mobile. Mining platinum is more profitable of course (and so is hauling), but it doesn't work outside populated areas. You have to come home to sell it.
A lot cheaper to do it in a ship than an FC. Scooping fuel covers the only cost and you can still sell carto if you want a big injection. FC just drains cash if you are travelling in the black and I don’t see it gives any advantage over a large ship.
30 Sep 2021, 4:46pm
SakashiroI'm trying to figure out if it's possible to get a carrier and become completely self-sufficient out in the black, i.e. without having to return to civilization (except for vacations) and without one's credit balance bleeding dry. The solution I see is to install Universal Cartographics (and possibly Vista Genomics in the future) and sell data to them, and to mine tritium to remain mobile. Mining platinum is more profitable of course (and so is hauling), but it doesn't work outside populated areas. You have to come home to sell it.
The FCs have two facilities that can give you CR: Universal Cartographics and Redemption Office. Both methods have reduction in profit compared to station counterparts. Collecting bounties in the black is not impossible but you can ignore it. The only viable option is scanning bodies (eventually Frontier may add more methods with the announced FC's concourse)
With minimum facilities the upkeep will be 11.35 mil per week if you do not jump. (That is minimal setup - refuel , repair, restock and UC). And 11mil are not problem for cartographic data if you play few hours per week. The tritium will take more time to find and obtain but you won't be fast anyway. It is like dragging a very big ball and chain, but it can work if this is your thing. You can always get your best ship and return to the bubble if you decommission the bloody thing.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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