RawnuAll criticism aside, it's probably good to acknowledge that the majority of the player base is excited right now. And deeply involved. For us, an invasion and all the "mechanics" involved might be old hat because we've done it dozens of times. But for the majority of players, this is probably the first time they don't run from Thargoids but engage them (heck, maybe it's the first time the ever seen one up close). And if FDev did one thing well this year, it's bringing in new players in general but also to the Thargoid content. So I'm trying to enjoy the enjoyment (and the fear!) of others and tame my own expectations. And tbf, another Thargoid game mechanic after the Titans and the Spire Sites would've been a bit much probably. My curiosity is now focused on what ramifications the end (?) will have, what's next in store for AX combat and the general human/alien storyline.

ThinderI just find out that one cannot stack two engineered 5D HULL REINFORCEMENT PACKAGES, I just tried, the whole engineering of one basically vanished, waste of time, resources and a rather unfair event...

In my humble opinion, this is one of the reasons why players doesn't rush into this Thargoid war, for newbies, it became too complexe, from fitting a ship properly to engagement tactics (cold Orbiting and repairs) not to mention that one need special materials (Thargoids and/or Guardian) to reload/synthesis and you got a whole lot of new culture to learn if all you've done was bounty hunting.

I'm late to get into it but I had other things to do and I guess a whole lot of new players are finding it as complex and time consuming than I do...

In my case, I have exhausted my resources and am down to cannibalizing ships to get ONE fully prep as it should be, optimized for Shield-less AX combat, I need to farm materials including Guardian stuff for Synthesis... How much more complicated does this have to be?

So just imagine a new player who started with the processes of farming, engineering for bounty hunting and has to relearn everything he knows to get into AX Combat without being slaughtered in a CZ by a swarm of scouts while trying to get an Interceptor down...

Dont ask too loudly why players are slow to respond to the Sol invasion...

Nikopolstarhunter


are you sure? i did (heavy duty / deep plating) on my vette 1 months ago but then i replaced it with back 5D Guardian Shield Reinforcement Package

Franz EberhoferThinder, please stop giving advices how to build AX ships, your goids experience is practically null

Thinder

RawnuAll criticism aside, it's probably good to acknowledge that the majority of the player base is excited right now. And deeply involved. For us, an invasion and all the "mechanics" involved might be old hat because we've done it dozens of times. But for the majority of players, this is probably the first time they don't run from Thargoids but engage them (heck, maybe it's the first time the ever seen one up close). And if FDev did one thing well this year, it's bringing in new players in general but also to the Thargoid content. So I'm trying to enjoy the enjoyment (and the fear!) of others and tame my own expectations. And tbf, another Thargoid game mechanic after the Titans and the Spire Sites would've been a bit much probably. My curiosity is now focused on what ramifications the end (?) will have, what's next in store for AX combat and the general human/alien storyline.

You're right to point this out, you guys have been doing Thargoid hunting for what? Years? I still have to kill my first Interceptor, the best I did so far in AXCZs is to take some down to 35% Hull and have to run because under fire from Scouts.

I tried different weapon combination; the ENHANCED AX MULTI-CANNON doesn't work for me, running out of ammo too fast and I'm unable to reload out of a station, I haven't figured how to use the AX MISSILE RACK yet, the Modified Guardian Plasma Charger is good but I still can't cause as much Hull damage with it as the GUARDIAN GAUSS CANNON...

I must be doing something wrong and it's gonna tame me time to figure out what I need to do to finally get a kill, Scouts are not the problem btw...

>>>>>>

Notes: Shields doesn't work for me I'm gonna have to re-engineer my AX ships.

RawnuAll criticism aside, it's probably good to acknowledge that the majority of the player base is excited right now. And deeply involved. For us, an invasion and all the "mechanics" involved might be old hat because we've done it dozens of times. But for the majority of players, this is probably the first time they don't run from Thargoids but engage them (heck, maybe it's the first time the ever seen one up close). And if FDev did one thing well this year, it's bringing in new players in general but also to the Thargoid content. So I'm trying to enjoy the enjoyment (and the fear!) of others and tame my own expectations. And tbf, another Thargoid game mechanic after the Titans and the Spire Sites would've been a bit much probably. My curiosity is now focused on what ramifications the end (?) will have, what's next in store for AX combat and the general human/alien storyline.

Indynot everyone can or will grasp the key concepts of AX combat and therefore might burn out hard when they come up against intentionally difficult gameplay.

Thinderthe style I have developed with the Corvette doing bounties requires a lot of fire power, not really cold orbiting maneuvers and use of heatsinks and the rest of it.

Thinder From my humble point of view, it takes a lot more time to get the hang of AX Combat than simply fitting a ship and going bounty hunting.

There is much more into it starting with fits, then tactics and to make matter even worse, now there are swarms of Scouts hitting you when you're trying to kill an interceptor in a CZ, I don't know how it have been for you guys up to now but this seems a bit excessive for new players to take all onboard.

Most videos I've seen show mostly one vs one, from my recent experience it is no longer the case, after getting rid of the first wave of Scouts, the Interceptor are popin' in and shortly after more Scouts, I might just have been able to take one interceptor down if it haven't been for the waves of scouts.

Thinder I'm gonna try something different

Thinder I'll see where it takes me.

Anyway have fun and leave some for us AX newbies.

IndyIt's a fun internal experience to keep a cool head while there's all sorts of chaos and destruction outside the canopy.

Meowers

Thinderthe style I have developed with the Corvette doing bounties requires a lot of fire power, not really cold orbiting maneuvers and use of heatsinks and the rest of it.

I may not be the best source of advice, but there's a thing I guess many would agree with. In AX, not being hit is way better than having lots of armour. Larger bugs, lots of bugs, or especially lots of larger bugs, will always have more firepower combined, slugging them out isn't an option. So manoeuvring and temps control are essential if you want to fight effectively. And there are often moments when you have to retreat or switch your target, so the ability to be faster than the bugs is much welcome too.

Indy

Thinder From my humble point of view, it takes a lot more time to get the hang of AX Combat than simply fitting a ship and going bounty hunting.

There is much more into it starting with fits, then tactics and to make matter even worse, now there are swarms of Scouts hitting you when you're trying to kill an interceptor in a CZ, I don't know how it have been for you guys up to now but this seems a bit excessive for new players to take all onboard.

Most videos I've seen show mostly one vs one, from my recent experience it is no longer the case, after getting rid of the first wave of Scouts, the Interceptor are popin' in and shortly after more Scouts, I might just have been able to take one interceptor down if it haven't been for the waves of scouts.

You've summed it up really well here, I think. There's a lot to it.

(And, just to be clear for the sake of camaraderie, please know that my comment was not directed at you nor a criticism of the players recently discussing AX. That's what we're here for, after all. My comment was meant to highlight the intentionally steep learning curve required, as you well summed up in your reply.)

I, personally, enjoy that intense learning curve of tactics, builds, and scenarios. It's also why I enjoy CQC. It's a fun internal experience to keep a cool head while there's all sorts of chaos and destruction outside the canopy.

Thinder I'm gonna try something different

Thinder I'll see where it takes me.

Anyway have fun and leave some for us AX newbies.

THAT is the best part of AX, IMO. Adapting, learning, experimenting. I think it's great that you're taking that approach!
IMO, I'm just barely cutting my teeth, if not still a "newbie" myself. My numbers are minuscule, compared to pilots with thousands of AX kills and hours in their flight seats.

ThinderQuestion: Do you know what type of Interceptors are presents in those CZs, because this fit might not be adapted to them, on the other hand I need the materials for Synthesis so it matters little if I farm them and some extra Guardian Weapon blueprints on top.

ThinderI think it makes the process of learning technics such as cold orbiting more difficult because your attention is constantly distracted by threats instead of just the flight and the target.

Meowers

ThinderQuestion: Do you know what type of Interceptors are presents in those CZs, because this fit might not be adapted to them, on the other hand I need the materials for Synthesis so it matters little if I farm them and some extra Guardian Weapon blueprints on top.

Cyclopes are the main source of meat. Sometimes it happens that way that you don't have anything other than Cyclopes, until you clear the 'second' phase and get to Hydras. That's the invasion scenarios, with station defence. I'd say, it's 75% Cyclopes, 15% Basilisks and 10% Medusas. Approximately. Space AXCZs are quite different, there you can encounter Basilisks and Medusas during the second phase more frequently, at least from my experience: the Cyclopes are still more numerous but your chances to get something else are higher.