Elite: Lore

21 Mar 2021, 5:13pm
I stumbled over this thread on the official forums a few months ago completly by accident... which is a damn shame, as it contains a LOT of important lore about how the three superpowers work. And it is buried so deeply on the forums I fear only a handful of people may even remember that it exists.

So, let me post it here as well for you all to read.

Zac Antonaci, 18 Jan 2016
Hey guys,
One of the group leaders asked a question in the group leaders forum about governments and how they work. Specifically with the purpose of being able to write better stories and background in the game. It's been suggested that the answer would be beneficial to be added to the public forums and I agree. So here it is.

Question

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Imperial Senate

- What is the structure of the Senate?
- How are Senators selected / appointed?
- Does every Empire system have representation on the Senate?
- Where is the Senate located? Is it in a named building, in a particular city?
- What is the length a Senator's term in office?
- If each Empire system is indeed represented by a Senator, does that therefore mean the Senator changes each time the controlling minor faction flips in that system?
- What are the day to day responsibilities of Senators?
- Are Senators chosen exclusively from only certain demographics / minor faction types, for example could only a Patron become a Senator, or is the position open to individuals from Corporations, or from Dictatorship minor faction governments as well?



Federation Congress

- What is the structure of Congress?
- How are Congresspersons selected / appointed?
- Does every Federation system have representation in Congress?
- Where exactly is Congress located?
- What is the length of a Congresspersons term in office?
- Do Congresspersons change when their system's controlling Minor Faction is flipped?
- What are the day to day responsibilities of Congresspersons?
- Are Congresspersons chosen exclusively from only certain minor faction government types, such as Democratic, or could an individual from a Corporate, or Cooperative faction also become a Congressperson?



Alliance Council of Admirals / Prime Minister's Office

- What is the current structure of the Council and how exactly does it interact with the Office of the Prime Minister for the Alliance?
- How are the PM, and Council members selected?
- Where, and in what manner, are each Alliance member system represented politically?
- Where exactly is the PM's Office & the Council located?
- What is the length of the PM's term in office, and how long do members of the council serve?
- How does the Council respond in terms of political representation, when a member system's Minor Faction flips?
- What are the day to day responsibilities of the PM and members of the Council?



Providing this sort of information is really key to allowing players and groups to write stories that fit the game well, organise events that are consistent with established lore, and also means we don't waste any time or effort developing fiction that isn't really appropriate for the setting.

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Imperial Senate

- What is the structure of the Senate?

All Senators and the Emperor can ‘sit’ in the Senate, but it is rare that all participate at the same time. The Chancellor is a Senator with additional powers, and he or she runs any debates in the Senate. They are appointed by the Emperor. It is otherwise structurally flat by law, but in practice has power blocks within it, led by the more important/powerful Senators. Not all Senators are equal. There are regular votes on issues of the day, and the Senator’s voting power is the total number of Citizens (in turn represented by Clients, and blocks of Clients by Patrons) they currently represent. They are influenced by their most powerful Patrons – who in turn are not all equal, and Patrons may move their block to another Senator at a whim, particularly if they feel their current Senator is not representing the views of their Clients. Senators can lose Patrons quickly if their actions are unpopular, but bear in mind a Senator sets tax rates and healthcare for all those that support them, so can effectively bribe Patrons to ally themselves with them. The most powerful Senators can have a hundred or more times the voting power than others, and a Senate majority can be just a few of the major Senators, but honour requires that the views of all Senators are listened to politely. Before voting against them.

- How are Senators selected / appointed?

There are no elections. A Senator represents a group of Patrons, who in turn represent Clients, and each of those represents a group of Citizens. This representation is public. Anyone can see who is currently supporting each Senator (Patron, Client), and their numbers. There are 1,000 Senators by Imperial Decree, dating back to the first Emperor a thousand years ago. A very popular Patron can petition to become a Senator if he or she thinks they could represent more Citizens than one of the least popular Senators. That less popular Senator the petitioner chooses to target has the opportunity to rally support against the challenger for seven days, but as does the popular Patron, and at the end of that period a decision is made based on their support, and that Patron cannot petition again for 1 Earth year if they are unsuccessful. Similarly a deposed Senator cannot petition to become a Senator again for a year. Posting a petition has a cost (1 Bn CR, paid to the Emperor) to prevent time wasters, which is returned if the petition succeeds.
When a Senator dies or chooses to retire, usually their chosen successor takes their Senatorial seat. Most Senators will have such a chosen successor already working closely in their entourage, and familiar and friendly with their most powerful Patrons so continuity is assured; as a result generally their petitions are unopposed. Sometimes multiple petitions are made for the same Senatorial opening, which can happen when a Senator and their entourage dies in the same event, so this is the nearest the Empire gets to an election, with the most popular succeeding in their petition.
A controversial issue can result in a sudden mass realignment of Patrons, but this can happen at any time; the system is pretty dynamic.
Similarly there are not just senatorial petitions as above, but there are petitions for Patrons, Clients, and Citizens. A citizen petition is where a slave or child of a Citizen, or even a foreigner, petitions to become an Imperial Citizen. For children this is a fairly informal process, which is really a coming-of-age party with a brief ceremony at the start, which happens when they reach 21 years old.
Apart from the Emperor, royal standing is separate from political standing. Knights, Princes etc exist, and only a few get involved in politics – and then it is mostly by influencing and supporting friendly Senators from behind the scenes, but there is nothing stopping them also becoming Senators.

- Does every Imperial system have representation on the Senate?

Effectively, but indirectly. Every Imperial Citizen has a right to representation by a Client. Every Client has a right to be represented by a Patron, and every Patron a Senator. Senators generally represent power bases – which can be many systems or a specific interest group, and typically many hundred Patrons – though it is up to the Senator how many Patrons they have. There is not a fixed number. So if a system has just one Imperial Citizen living there, they will have representation in the Senate – but most likely only indirectly through their Patrons. It is likely there is a Patron at the head of each of the larger Imperial Minor Factions for example, but not a Senator.

- Where is the Senate located? Is it in a named building, in a particular city?

Historically it used to always physically sit in the Senate House on Capitol (Achenar 6d). It is near to the Imperial Palace. Technically it still does sit there, but in practice most Senators ‘sit’ virtually by remote projection – though by tradition there are a number of events (like the accession of a new Emperor, and on ‘Empire Day’ (January 2nd) where it is considered ‘proper and polite’ to attend physically, where a party atmosphere descends on Capitol as the entourages of each Senator arrive in their finery.

- What is the length a Senator's term in office?

Generally until death, or until they choose to retire. Occasionally an unpopular Senator is challenged by a petition (see above), and that can also end their term.

- If each Imperial system is indeed represented by a Senator, does that therefore mean the Senator changes each time the controlling minor faction flips in that system?

No. See above. A Minor Faction is likely to be led by a Patron.

- What are the day to day responsibilities of Senators?

To represent their Patrons as they see fit. Senators can also hold other roles, like Admiral of the Fleet, Chancellor, Leader of the House (runs the Senate hearings when the Emperor and Chancellor are not present). Senators can also have private interests, and generally represent one or more Corporations – often with large personal shareholdings in them. They are fully entitled to be biased towards their own interests, and generally do, as long as most of their Patrons hold much the same interests. Senators are above the law, subject only to a decree from the Emperor, and through history it has even been known for Senators to go to battle against each other.

- Are Senators chosen exclusively from only certain demographics / minor faction types, for example could only a Patron become a Senator, or is the position open to individuals from Corporations, or from Dictatorship minor faction governments as well?

No, there are Senators that have come up from the Military, or by corporate success – but by the very nature of Patronage, and the cost of the petitions, it can be very exclusive, with family inheritance being important too.


Federation Congress

- What is the structure of Congress?

Federal Congress is made up of 500 Congressmen (the term for both men and women). They sit in Congress, which is in Olympus Village on Mars – which replaced its location in Washington DC early in the previous millennium.

- How are Congresspersons selected / appointed?

Congressmen are elected for an eight year term, along with a President, with a ‘vote of no confidence’ after four years. If the vote of no confidence succeeds then a full election takes place. A Congressman (or President) cannot serve multiple consecutive terms, though a Congressman can (and often does) become President immediately after a term as a Congressman.

- Does every Federation system have representation in Congress?

Yes, but generally a Congressman represents multiple systems, except a few (like Sol) that have more than one Congressional representative, based loosely on historic population. Phenomenal growth in the outer systems has meant that they have little representation in Congress, and there is frequent discussion about creating many new Congressmen to address this balance, but the various power blocks realise it will change the balance of power away from the core systems, the very people who would have to vote it through – so many agree it is unlikely to happen in the near future.

- Where exactly is Congress located?

Olympus Village (a misnomer – it is now a sprawling metropolis) on Mars, and Congressmen are expected to attend in person to vote.

- What is the length of a Congresspersons term in office?

Up to eight years. They can get voted out after four, as above.

- Do Congresspersons change when their system's controlling Minor Faction is flipped?

Not until their term is up, but their life could become difficult, so they might resign, triggering a local election.

- What are the day to day responsibilities of Congresspersons?

Representing their constituency. They can also hold other office as part of government – for example chairing committees etc. They are not allowed to have corporate interests that might conflict with their political roles (though quite often some hide them via their friends, spouses etc, and not all get found out)

- Are Congresspersons chosen exclusively from only certain minor faction government types, such as Democratic, or could an individual from a Corporate, or Cooperative faction also become a Congressperson?

Anyone can stand for election. They do not need to be backed by a political party or minor faction, but it helps. There are three major parties, Democrats, Republicans, and Libertarians. Corporations generally do push (and fund) their chosen candidates or parties (eg Hudson), as do other special interest groups.


Alliance Council of Admirals / Prime Minister's Office

- What is the current structure of the Council and how exactly does it interact with the Office of the Prime Minister for the Alliance?

Each Alliance Member State has a number of Council Members within the Alliance Assembly, based on the size of their respective populations. Some only have one. The Prime Minister is elected by the Members, and it is his or her job to corral them into some sort of consensus; generally a slow process. There is much less tradition than in the other powers, and processes within the Alliance Assembly are still subject to change – generally when arguments break out, as they frequently do. In practice the Alliance is largely run by Civil Servants – salaried officials that look after day to day running of the Alliance, generally not getting involved in the political struggles.
The Alliance Defence Force is run by the six member Council of Admirals, independently from the Council of Members, but reporting to it after the event, to facilitate rapid decision-making. Each of these Admirals is from a key contributing Navy.

- How are the PM, and Council members selected?

The PM is elected by the Council Members. Each Member State has slightly different electoral rules based on their history.

- Where, and in what manner, are each Alliance member system represented politically?

By their Council Member(s) in Parliament. Parliament is virtual, but run from Turner’s World in Alioth.

- Where exactly is the PM's Office & the Council located?

Garden City on Turner’s World in Alioth, close to the old industrial and ship-building city of New Rossyth.

- What is the length of the PM's term in office, and how long do members of the council serve?

In theory the Prime Minister is elected for six years, but disputes within the Assembly have meant that the PM often doesn’t make it that long. They can suffer votes against them, often resulting in resignation, or occasionally votes of not confidence. They can serve multiple terms, but none have manages to do so yet.

- How does the Council respond in terms of political representation, when a member system's Minor Faction flips?

If this happens within a Member State, then depending on the rules of that Member State it could change who represents them in the Assembly – but given that the Assembly rarely gets anything done, it is unlikely anyone will notice.

- What are the day to day responsibilities of the PM and members of the Council?

The Assembly represents their population. The Council of Admirals runs the Alliance Defence Force. The real power rests with the Civil Servants, and the Council of Admirals.

Michael
21 Mar 2021, 5:46pm
Very good stuff
23 Mar 2021, 5:30pm
"The Marlinist Parliament has refuted widespread allegations of supporting or concealing members of the NMLA paramilitary group."

Despite all the fuzz about the tragedy and the launching of ACT's investigations, it's plain and clear that no real and solid information has surfaced since the attacks!

It's a huge embarrassment to all Three Powers, and if the ACT doesn't come up with very good material soon, all this situation will be doomed to chaos and mutual accusations -- until the next NMLA attack.
24 Mar 2021, 2:47pm
You mean politicians aren't working to fix problems, and only bitching about each other while acting like they're doing something? The hell, you say!

I don't think even ten millennia would be enough time to change that.
24 Mar 2021, 2:53pm
Jubei HimuraYou mean politicians aren't working to fix problems, and only bitching about each other while acting like they're doing something? The hell, you say!

I don't think even ten millennia would be enough time to change that.


Definition of 'job security'
26 Mar 2021, 11:25am
Just remember - Politics

Poli = Many

Tics = Blood Sucking Parasites

Just saying like.
26 Mar 2021, 12:38pm
John BootsJust remember - Politics

Poli = Many

Tics = Blood Sucking Parasites

Just saying like.


^^THIS 07
26 Mar 2021, 1:18pm
vs Diplomats ~= 'Statesmen'.
29 Mar 2021, 5:03pm
tl;dr for today's GALNET-article:

Galaxy last year: "Lets undermine and sabotage the Empire's attempts to stop the NMLA in both Eurybia and LTT 1935!"

Galaxy today: "Hey, Empire, why haven't you done anything at all to stop the NMLA?!"
29 Mar 2021, 5:34pm
Yawn...

The Empire has created the NMLA. Funny how Imps love to quote GalNet, except when they write something like this:

There was also a comment from fellow parliamentarian Aaron Whyte:

“I understand it’s human nature to seek a villain, but we should remember that the Neo-Marlinist cause has sound political foundations. The Empire suppressed all republican movements for centuries, imprisoning and executing far more people than those who died in the ‘Nine Martyrs’.

Emphasis added.
29 Mar 2021, 5:42pm
Whyte's tendencies to spit fire against the Empire (to a degree that makes him look like at least an NMLA sympathizer if not even a member) whenever his boss Fairfax tries to normalize the relationship of the Marlinist Colonies with the Empire to reinforce the point that they are NOT affiliated with the NMLA in any way, shape or form disqualifies him from being taken seriously IMO.
29 Mar 2021, 9:57pm
The Federation and Alliance should be careful what it wishes for.

Although I had a good time during the Purge, lets face it, legally sanctioned paid murder is not something that comes along every day, clearly the repercussions involved some serious hand wringing for some of the more conscionable Imperial subjects.

I cant help but think the Federal wage slaves and Alliance do-gooders aren't morally ready yet to surf the guilt wave that breaks when you use terrorists on terrorists.

Hey that reminds me, I knew a wine buff once who really knew his stuff. He was something of a terroirist himself.

You know I just made that up? Honestly sometimes I am so funny I make myself laugh!

Lets hope Purge2 is a thing. Im getting a bit bored.
30 Mar 2021, 3:07am
I think you'll find yourself surprised at how far the Alliance is willing to go to protect its systems. The Thargoids attacked our systems and burned our stations, so what did we do? As soon as the barnacles were identified in Witch Head and Coalsack we went out there and seized them. Everyone views it as an economically motivated move but there is another far more important reason.

While we control those barnacles the Thargoids cannot attack the bubble. No army cam wage war without logistics and supply chains, not even the Thargoids. I can't say whether we are winning or losing the war but we are definitely winning the battles as evidenced by their attempts (and failures) to remove us from the area.

If we're willing to face off against a territorial aggressive xeno enemy to protect our people, what do you think we're gonna do to the NMLA when we get our hands on them?
30 Mar 2021, 10:08am
RedivivusCrowd what do you think we're gonna do to the NMLA when we get our hands on them?



Bore them to death with Statistics and nunaced political theory?

How's that election going anyway? I see the Alliance is developing nicely into some Dictatorial Military regime. The Council of Admirals must be very happy with Mahon.
30 Mar 2021, 3:43pm
Kara waldeN
RedivivusCrowd what do you think we're gonna do to the NMLA when we get our hands on them?




Bore them to death with Statistics and nunaced political theory?

How's that election going anyway? I see the Alliance is developing nicely into some Dictatorial Military regime. The Council of Admirals must be very happy with Mahon.



Don't underestimate the power of spreadsheets and pencil pushers. The Alliance has gone from 250ish systems to 1115 over the course of six years. That wasn't by accident. As for the Council of Admirals they are certainly not beyond the reach of the law. Two have been arrested and imprisoned within the last 3 years.

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