Inara updates, bug reports, requests

Commanders having Elite from Epic games store with http 400 error
When you try to link your accounts, you may receive the http error 400 about expired tokens. It's an issue on Frontier's end that I cannot solve on Inara. Fortunately, the solution is simple - please give it a few days and it will start to work later (probably when the access token on their cAPI server expires). If the error 400 appeared later and it worked before, try to reauthenticate as said in the error message (may be just a regular reauth forced by Frontier). Alternatively, you can try to use the workaround below. If even that won't work, it's the problem described above.
Please vote for the issue on the official bug tracker: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/21258

Possible workaround: Try to connect the account while you are in the game. It may work.

Game data and imports not available for console commanders and PC players with Legacy game version
Inara supports only the Live game version (so PC Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey) since game update 14, thus all the game data on the site and the commander data imports work only for those game versions.
19 May 2017, 4:35pm
I have had these same issues before, and in numerous versions of the game, so it isn't a new thing. I believe it is something in the game itself(possibly more RNG?) that is limiting availability to some of the potentially stocked components. Parts will pop for some people, others not so much. I have never tried to experiment with switching modes, so maybe you can get the inventory to re-roll the availability by doing that? I just kept flying different places until I found what I needed.
19 May 2017, 5:56pm
NezerrothYeah, but I've only found one just now after five visited stations, every one of them is listed as updated today/now. You sure nothing broke? It started happening maybe two weeks ago with increasing frequency.

Hmmm... interesting. It seems there is really some issue for some modules in those stations, you were right. Thank you for pointing me to it, I will fix it immediately.

Edit: Fixed. Data should be correct in 24 hours at the latest.


Last edit: 19 May 2017, 6:20pm
19 May 2017, 6:41pm
Out of curiosity Artie, is there a specific reason users can't be a member of multiple wings?
19 May 2017, 7:55pm
I'd imagine that some wings may not want other wings knowing too much of their business...
19 May 2017, 8:01pm
Some wings demand absolute, undying, unswerving loyalty!
19 May 2017, 8:46pm
Marra MorganSome wings demand absolute, undying, unswerving loyalty!


You may check out any time you like, but you will never leave...
19 May 2017, 10:13pm
Artie
ZATZAiHey Artie, I have a feature request if it's not too much trouble. On the Cargo page, could we manually set levels for mininimum, ideal and maximum amount of materials? Would help to keep track of what we can afford to throw out when our material/data inventory fills up. I mostly want to keep track of what materials I want on hand for synthesis of jumponium and reloads rather than for blueprints.

This is something EDDI supposedly supports but I don't think it can be accessed without Voice Attack. Still would be pretty nice to be able to track that in Inara.


Yep, I have something about it on my ToDo already. Not directly to the cargo edit, but for blueprints (how many times player wants to craft it), which then also reflects to the cargo list.


Oh great, yah if that supported blueprints and synthesis that would be wonderful.

Luke3107Out of curiosity Artie, is there a specific reason users can't be a member of multiple wings?


As more groups are using Inara as their primary website, it would indeed be nice if you could be part of multiple wings where it makes sense. Even if it was noted as a "Primary" and "Auxiliary" wing. For example I've been a member of Lavigny's Legion for quite some time, but I'm also in the Chapterhouse of Inquisition (The two groups are not mutually exclusive as they serve different goals). I don't need to have access to their Inara Wing so it hasn't bothered me too much, but I could envision scenarios where it might be important.
19 May 2017, 10:29pm
I could envision scenarios where it might cause one or two problems
20 May 2017, 11:05am
Jemine CaesarI'd imagine that some wings may not want other wings knowing too much of their business...
Jemine CaesarI could envision scenarios where it might cause one or two problems

I can see some issues arising, but nothing that can't be policed by a wing leader. For example, I wouldn't grant the user the ability to hide wing memberships. Allowing everyone to see if they are part of a hostile group.
Marra MorganSome wings demand absolute, undying, unswerving loyalty!
I have no doubt. But I'm certain you wouldn't begrudge said member if he/she was to be part of, say, the Fuel Rats or a similar style wing?
ZATZAi
Luke3107Out of curiosity Artie, is there a specific reason users can't be a member of multiple wings?
As more groups are using Inara as their primary website, it would indeed be nice if you could be part of multiple wings where it makes sense. Even if it was noted as a "Primary" and "Auxiliary" wing. For example I've been a member of Lavigny's Legion for quite some time, but I'm also in the Chapterhouse of Inquisition (The two groups are not mutually exclusive as they serve different goals). I don't need to have access to their Inara Wing so it hasn't bothered me too much, but I could envision scenarios where it might be important.

Pretty much what I'm getting at. It would be good to sign up to two, or even three groups, that each serve their own purpose. If those groups are at war with each other, it's not like the members can't just create fake accounts to join the opposing group and spy on them. In fact, I'll wager it already happens.
While this would be an issue needing dealt with, I'd hardly call it a new issue that would arise tbh.
20 May 2017, 11:21am
Luke3107
I have no doubt. But I'm certain you wouldn't begrudge said member if he/she was to be part of, say, the Fuel Rats or a similar style wing?


I would sack their do-gooding backsides without a moment's hesitation.
20 May 2017, 12:27pm
Luke3107
Marra Morgan
Luke3107I have no doubt. But I'm certain you wouldn't begrudge said member if he/she was to be part of, say, the Fuel Rats or a similar style wing?

I would sack their do-gooding backsides without a moment's hesitation.

And yet you claim Black Omega are the good guys


They're good at what they do. If that is morally right or wrong is written on another page entirely.
20 May 2017, 12:52pm
One reason is a concept of "one wing - one loyalty". The other reason are various complications it brings on various places, for example just a simple displaying commander's wing here in discussion (and that's just a minor one), routing to proper wing discussions when there is something new (and probably need to have some general overview of all wing discussions somewhere), problems with rankings, etc. etc. There is a lot of stuff in wings that needs be handled differently with multiple wing memberships. I don't say it is not technically possible, but... honestly, it simply doesn't worth the effort, because just a minority will use it.

But, I fully understand that for some cases like Canonn, Fuel Rats, etc. is a multiple wing membership desirable. These are pretty specific, as I consider them rather as "work groups" than wings, where are some "core members" but also lot of supporters that are interested in what they are doing, but their loyalty lies in a different wing. For these cases I am evaluating some options, something like Zatzai mentioned - some kind of limited "auxiliary" wing access, role of a "wing supporter", etc. I am not entirely sure how it will work yet, it's not so easy, but definitely thinking about it.
20 May 2017, 12:57pm
No problem. Cheers Artie
20 May 2017, 1:10pm
Artie
But, I fully understand that for some cases like Canonn, Fuel Rats, etc. is a multiple wing membership desirable. These are pretty specific, as I consider them rather as "work groups" than wings, where are some "core members" but also lot of supporters that are interested in what they are doing, but their loyalty lies in a different wing. For these cases I am evaluating some options, something like Zatzai mentioned - some kind of limited "auxiliary" wing access, role of a "wing supporter", etc. I am not entirely sure how it will work yet, it's not so easy, but definitely thinking about it.


That's pretty exactly the case for the Fuel Rats. The Inara Wing is for our organization rather unimportant as most of the coordinating is handled via our own external site and networks.

Two other suggestions:

-For the discussion boards with more than a few hundred sites an "Jump to page" function, so one doesn't have to spend an hour clicking through hundreds of pages. It's good doable by just manipulating the URL but I fear not everyone knows that trick.

-A rename of the "Fuel Rat" role to "Search and Rescue", "Refueler", "Breakdown Service" or something else fitting. The problem here is that the "Fuel Rat" role implies a membership in the Mischief and thus the participation and completion of all the relevant drills, etc, which isn't necessarily true as anyone can choose that role.
20 May 2017, 2:25pm
Artie<multiple wings per account on Inara> I am not entirely sure how it will work yet, it's not so easy, but definitely thinking about it.

Perhaps it would be easier to instead make Inara support being simultaneously logged in to multiple accounts with an easy method of switching which is currently active ?

In the meantime Cmdrs could emulate this by simply making multiple accounts and relogging as needed.

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