NFC PhistoIsn't this just duplicating what PMs, Discord, and various other platforms already provide?

PROMETHEUS VR-42No offence taken - debate is good. Which is also why I think the Roleplay forum is good. We conduct the majority of our negotiations privately. However, having a community-wide forum to declare intent and call parties together is valuable when negotiations have broken down or when the threat is persistent and/or global. We could establish a set of rules (e.g., must be in roleplay, must conform to Robert's Rules of Order, etc.). I'm open to suggestions.

Van R FlyheightI also think it should be limited to either in game factions or large wings. It's not an attempt to bar people but if anyone can start a wing and go full troll on day one then the toxicity will rise.

Van R FlyheightI definitely like the idea put forward of ambassadors being able to post. It would give something to do for that role. So perhaps Wing commander, deputy and ambassador could post ie. People already responsible for diplomacy.

I also think it should be limited to either in game factions or large wings. It's not an attempt to bar people but if anyone can start a wing and go full troll on day one then the toxicity will rise.

Ryan Murdoc

Van R FlyheightI also think it should be limited to either in game factions or large wings. It's not an attempt to bar people but if anyone can start a wing and go full troll on day one then the toxicity will rise.

While some excitement is needed not to make things too dull, to allow pure troublemakers to have a PMF as a fake excuse to do their Trolling doesn't qualify as playing the BGS.

Ryan Murdoc

Van R FlyheightI also think it should be limited to either in game factions or large wings. It's not an attempt to bar people but if anyone can start a wing and go full troll on day one then the toxicity will rise.

And yes, not knowing the exact workings of the BGS can break your neck, even if you have nobody working against you. But quite a few are out there running the Survival of the fittest attitude. Or simply have their PMF created and placed somewhere, knowing fully well it'll just end up annoying others and causing strife.

While some excitement is needed not to make things too dull, to allow pure troublemakers to have a PMF as a fake excuse to do their Trolling doesn't qualify as playing the BGS.

ArtieInteresting discussion. My perception for this hypothetical thread was that it should serve as some kind of "neutral conference room", where anybody may ask for the support, can openly declare a war/support against/to another wing or simply make public negotiations as part of their strategy (to gather allies, to end a war in an open dialogue, etc.). I think it shouldn't serve just to two-side talks (because as was mentioned in the comments, there are already other ways how to do it in private) and also it is hard to provide some facilitator in such kind of talks (but it is not excluded).

ArtieSo, the further question is: Will be eventually a public space where can multiple parties "seriously" negotiate as described above ever used? Or there are the private two-side talks preferred and just some space for the public declarations can be useful?

ArtieInteresting discussion. My perception for this hypothetical thread was that it should serve as some kind of "neutral conference room", where anybody may ask for the support, can openly declare a war/support against/to another wing or simply make public negotiations as part of their strategy (to gather allies, to end a war in an open dialogue, etc.). I think it shouldn't serve just to two-side talks (because as was mentioned in the comments, there are already other ways how to do it in private) and also it is hard to provide some facilitator in such kind of talks (but it is not excluded). The biggest problem (as also mentioned) is that it may become toxic and it is definitely something I do not want to support. But, I can imagine with some strict rules it may work and it doesn't need to be RP - people just must realize it is a space for the "serious political talks", not a space for insults and accusing someone that he stole his toy and destroyed his sand castle during that.

So, the further question is: Will be eventually a public space where can multiple parties "seriously" negotiate as described above ever used? Or there are the private two-side talks preferred and just some space for the public declarations can be useful?

Artie

RenownNot sure if mentioned already but the signatures don't seem to updating on external forums. They are updated on here, but even if you copy the generated code for the image and paste it shows old data from before the site went off with the DNS thing. So even if it shows updated on here it's displaying old info. This isn't a few hours old data as it says it can take to update but days old. Anyone else notice this? For example it's showing my Fed ranking as Chief Petty Officer as I was up until the the 27th of November I became Warrant Officer, I have gone through 5 other rankings since too.

If the signature image is alright here, it may be caused by browser caching (there is some set), please force reload the forum page where is the signature image used and I expect it should be alright then.

Renown

Artie

RenownNot sure if mentioned already but the signatures don't seem to updating on external forums. They are updated on here, but even if you copy the generated code for the image and paste it shows old data from before the site went off with the DNS thing. So even if it shows updated on here it's displaying old info. This isn't a few hours old data as it says it can take to update but days old. Anyone else notice this? For example it's showing my Fed ranking as Chief Petty Officer as I was up until the the 27th of November I became Warrant Officer, I have gone through 5 other rankings since too.

If the signature image is alright here, it may be caused by browser caching (there is some set), please force reload the forum page where is the signature image used and I expect it should be alright then.

Google Chrome, in the settings/advanced/content settings/cookies/see all cookies and site data/  I deleted the items in the list for forums.frontier - still seeing the old signature from last week.

Opened Opera, logged in saw the current updated signature as it should be


Any ideas of what else I'm missing on Chrome?

Whiplash 1983Subject:
"Neutral Conference Room"

I was hoping that the new System/Faction INARA NEXUS would fill this roll as a location for [formal] meetings and be the Multi-Faction membership option allowing differing factions to discuss issues in a larger forum and get the benefit of a quorum to solve/sort/sanction/settle galactic issues.