Inara updates, bug reports, requests

Commanders having Elite from Epic games store with http 400 error
When you try to link your accounts, you may receive the http error 400 about expired tokens. It's an issue on Frontier's end that I cannot solve on Inara. Fortunately, the solution is simple - please give it a few days and it will start to work later (probably when the access token on their cAPI server expires). If the error 400 appeared later and it worked before, try to reauthenticate as said in the error message (may be just a regular reauth forced by Frontier). Alternatively, you can try to use the workaround below. If even that won't work, it's the problem described above.
Please vote for the issue on the official bug tracker: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/21258

Possible workaround: Try to connect the account while you are in the game. It may work.

Game data and imports not available for console commanders and PC players with Legacy game version
Inara supports only the Live game version (so PC Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey) since game update 14, thus all the game data on the site and the commander data imports work only for those game versions.
30 May 2020, 7:14pm
Kryxix
Aunty SledgeI've seen the first Megaships being auto-added to Inara. Megaships are always owned by the system controller, so you could complete the Faction, Government, and Allegiance fields when adding them.

The megaship types is populating correctly, which is really handy. I think range is the only value that commanders will need to input.


Wait with this. I already found 8(!) non-dockable megaships, what are NOT owned by the system control faction. (Banner/Hogan/Samson class bulk megaships.)


This is getting interesting. What systems are they in? Are you looking in Inara or in-game?

Here are my list of classes which I have always found to be system-controller owned.

Alcatraz-Class Reformatory
Amaethon-Class Cropper
Aquarius-class Tanker
Beckett-Class Researcher
Bellmarsh-Class Reformatory
Bowman-Class Researcher
Demeter Class Cropper
Dionysus-Class Cropper
Freedom-Class Surveyor
Gordon-Class Hauler
Hercules-Class Hauler
Hogan-Class Hauler
James-Class Hauler
Lowell-Class Researcher
Naphtha-Class Tanker
Riker-Class Reformatory
Sagan-Class Traveller
Samson-Class Hauler
Sanchez-Class Researcher
Thomas-Class Hauler
30 May 2020, 8:26pm
No, you were right! I checked those ships quickly ingame, and all of them owned by the system controller. What is very strange! One of them is a Banner-Class Hauler, called "Gaylen's Glory" in Onoros system. Gaylen Trasken Duval was an emblematic person of the Empire (the 11th Emperor), and it was an empire ship for a very long time - now the owner is the Alliance Expeditionary Pact... An Alliance ship wearing an Emperor's name  :D

All the other ships I mentioned before are the same case, unlocked from the original owners property, and now some new factions own them. (Three of them were Banner-Class Bulk Cargo Ships, what shiptype is not in your list).

There is a lonely megaship lurking in IC 4604 Sector FB-X c1-16 (shipname "Sarasvati" ), which has no owner faction (unpopulated system).


Last edit: 31 May 2020, 2:32pm
02 Jun 2020, 6:44am
KryxixThree of them were Banner-Class Bulk Cargo Ships, what shiptype is not in your list


My list is only what I've come across personally, it is certainly not complete. Not had the pleasure of spotting a Banner-Class yet.
02 Jun 2020, 11:24am
Artie, got a request to add to the long list.

Could you add "My favourite factions" to the system pages, where it currently lists "My favourite systems"?

Sounds odd I know, but it would really reduce the clicks required when doing BGS stuff. At the moment I'm listing faction home systems but it's far from ideal.

Or, perhaps add a favourite links options which could include on-site and off-site links? Then people could add whatever they liked.
02 Jun 2020, 1:38pm
Aunty SledgeArtie, got a request to add to the long list.

Could you add "My favourite factions" to the system pages, where it currently lists "My favourite systems"?

Sounds odd I know, but it would really reduce the clicks required when doing BGS stuff. At the moment I'm listing faction home systems but it's far from ideal.

Or, perhaps add a favourite links options which could include on-site and off-site links? Then people could add whatever they liked.


I have the favourite factions available- path : Cmdr>contacts and favourites>favourites. Is that what you want or have I misunderstood?
They are listed there after selection from the faction page. Also favourite stations, blueprints etc
02 Jun 2020, 3:58pm
Request/issue:
Hello I am playing with 2 separate CMDR: WADUQUON and LINKALNOIR.
It seems that there is a mix between those 2 about the status. I get the status of LINKALNOIR in place of WADUQUON.
On my PS4 the distinction is well maintained
Could you check, please and fix it if possible?
Thanks.
02 Jun 2020, 5:57pm
Silver Taffer
Aunty SledgeArtie, got a request to add to the long list.

Could you add "My favourite factions" to the system pages, where it currently lists "My favourite systems"?

Sounds odd I know, but it would really reduce the clicks required when doing BGS stuff. At the moment I'm listing faction home systems but it's far from ideal.

Or, perhaps add a favourite links options which could include on-site and off-site links? Then people could add whatever they liked.


I have the favourite factions available- path : Cmdr>contacts and favourites>favourites. Is that what you want or have I misunderstood?
They are listed there after selection from the faction page. Also favourite stations, blueprints etc


Yes they are there, but I can't dictate which pages they show up in. Now, if could have a personal widget section in the right sidebar where we could select the favourites and where we want them, now that would be wonderful.
02 Jun 2020, 9:46pm
Silver Taffer
Aunty SledgeArtie, got a request to add to the long list.

Could you add "My favourite factions" to the system pages, where it currently lists "My favourite systems"?

Sounds odd I know, but it would really reduce the clicks required when doing BGS stuff. At the moment I'm listing faction home systems but it's far from ideal.

Or, perhaps add a favourite links options which could include on-site and off-site links? Then people could add whatever they liked.



I have the favourite factions available- path : Cmdr>contacts and favourites>favourites. Is that what you want or have I misunderstood?
They are listed there after selection from the faction page. Also favourite stations, blueprints etc


Actually, what would be really useful would be a tooltip when you hover mouse over it, showing what stuff is under each section.
03 Jun 2020, 3:58pm
Thanks for the details and research on the megaships ownership, guys. I keep it noted, but for not I won't do any automatic setting (it has its complexity) - it also seems quite odd to me that travelling megaships can change the owner just by jumping into another system (by game design). That's just weird.

Aunty SledgeArtie, got a request to add to the long list.

Could you add "My favourite factions" to the system pages, where it currently lists "My favourite systems"?

Sounds odd I know, but it would really reduce the clicks required when doing BGS stuff. At the moment I'm listing faction home systems but it's far from ideal.

Or, perhaps add a favourite links options which could include on-site and off-site links? Then people could add whatever they liked.

Although adding it there is very simple, it may quite fill the page right side, so I will ask first - how exactly are you using it? More precisely - what kind of information/overview you are trying to get. I am asking that instead of countless clicking and going  through pages there may be a better way how to provide desired information on a single page.

WaduquonRequest/issue:
Hello I am playing with 2 separate CMDR: WADUQUON and LINKALNOIR.
It seems that there is a mix between those 2 about the status. I get the status of LINKALNOIR in place of WADUQUON.
On my PS4 the distinction is well maintained
Could you check, please and fix it if possible?
Thanks.

Hello, nothing I can do, as it requires user's action. Please unlink the respective account here in the settings, also logout on PSN site and then try to connect the accounts again. Use the correct PSN login during the process and it should do the trick.

Mug Kawiński
Actually, what would be really useful would be a tooltip when you hover mouse over it, showing what stuff is under each section.

Can you describe it a little bit, please? I am not sure what is meant exactly.
03 Jun 2020, 4:10pm
ArtieCan you describe it a little bit, please? I am not sure what is meant exactly.


03 Jun 2020, 4:12pm
Yeah, I mean what was the intention with that "....showing what stuff is under each section." I am not sure I understand what exactly it should show and on which links.
03 Jun 2020, 4:16pm
ArtieYeah, I mean what was the intention with that "....showing what stuff is under each section." I am not sure I understand what exactly it should show and on which links.


Having a tooltip that reads something like "here you can find things related with Z, such as sections A, B, C, ..." It would solve issue of searching for options for a longer time if someone doesn't use them pretty often.

I had to ask someone on Discord where you block people, since option was nowhere in the section connected with Friends and Contacts.
04 Jun 2020, 8:56am
Artie

Aunty SledgeArtie, got a request to add to the long list.

Could you add "My favourite factions" to the system pages, where it currently lists "My favourite systems"?

Sounds odd I know, but it would really reduce the clicks required when doing BGS stuff. At the moment I'm listing faction home systems but it's far from ideal.

Or, perhaps add a favourite links options which could include on-site and off-site links? Then people could add whatever they liked.


Although adding it there is very simple, it may quite fill the page right side, so I will ask first - how exactly are you using it? More precisely - what kind of information/overview you are trying to get. I am asking that instead of countless clicking and going  through pages there may be a better way how to provide desired information on a single page.


When doing BGS stuff you often need data about a faction that isn't in the system, mostly when considering retreats and expansions.

Having reviewed how I do things, I think I can work with what we have so far. I just need to favourite the important factions in the area. When I want to look at one I just click any random faction in the system and then I can see Favourite Factions. It's a two-click step, but better than my current use of bookmarking faction home systems as I need to remember a lot of faction home systems.

Having the faction favourites on the page would be a single-click solution but I appreciate not everyone wants/needs favourite factions on the systems page.

Another idea which might help with clicks is to add "Commander - My Current Location" in th shortcuts menu.
04 Jun 2020, 10:28am
Artie, any possibility that you could add a third option (squadron only) to the 'share my location' in settings? As it stands it is either 'yes' or 'no', but it would be a help in some Squadron situations to be able to locate members.
04 Jun 2020, 11:57am
ArtieThanks for the details and research on the megaships ownership, guys. I keep it noted, but for not I won't do any automatic setting (it has its complexity) - it also seems quite odd to me that travelling megaships can change the owner just by jumping into another system (by game design). That's just weird.


You can see it as the megaship not belonging to any faction (but perhaps by some non-political organization), thus falling under the jurisdiction of the local controlling faction as it controls the space surrounding the place the megaship jumped to.
On the contrary, it would be even stranger to have them keep an allegiance, since that would put faction assets in systems the faction isn't even active in. Looks like a BGS limitation to me.

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