Inara updates, bug reports, requests
When you try to link your accounts, you may receive the http error 400 about expired tokens. It's an issue on Frontier's end that I cannot solve on Inara. Fortunately, the solution is simple - please give it a few days and it will start to work later (probably when the access token on their cAPI server expires). If the error 400 appeared later and it worked before, try to reauthenticate as said in the error message (may be just a regular reauth forced by Frontier). Alternatively, you can try to use the workaround below. If even that won't work, it's the problem described above.
Please vote for the issue on the official bug tracker: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/21258
Possible workaround: Try to connect the account while you are in the game. It may work.
Game data and imports not available for console commanders and PC players with Legacy game version
Inara supports only the Live game version (so PC Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey) since game update 14, thus all the game data on the site and the commander data imports work only for those game versions.
09 Jun 2020, 8:02pm
ArtieYes, any feedback is always welcome, thank you for the ideas! What I have on my mind for now:
- FC will be possible to set as a squadron asset, such FCs will be listed on the squadron's fleet page
- there will be possible to set various privacy/visibility levels for FCs details, from "none" (as is now) up to "all". So, you will be able to set FC as a squadron asset and limit the details visibility for squadron members only, for example
- I would like to provide some chart of finances, jump history and also Tritium donations history
I think that I can make some exception for carriers, so there will be possible to set the minor faction without the risk of it being overridden during auto-updates. Good call with the squadron being displayed, when assigned, I will add that to the list. No plans for the "flight plans" or missions settings at the moment, but it's something any squadron can handle easily in the text form anywhere.
Sounds great! For the finances chart, I hope we'll be able to see how much each service is making in revenue? Only if that's sent through the Journal of course, not sure how detailed the information you will get is.
Not too fussed about jump history (though maybe you could add a field "next jump" or so that the owner can manually populate with a location and date. This field could then be deleted if the Carrier actually jumps to that location or the given date passes. Would make a "flight plan" redundant.
Of course, it's nothing I absolutely need, it would simply be nice-to-have, that's all.
Edit: The carrier upkeep "Costs covered for" field is not displaying any number when you haven't reserved credits for upkeep. Please allow it to calculate a number based on current carrier balance, as I won't be using the "reserve X percent for upkeep" feature and would still like to know how long I can run it!
The carrier and installed services should also contribute to the total asset value of the owner. (And carrier balance could also contribute to the credit balance imo, though that's not a must)
09 Jun 2020, 9:07pm
I see that the carrier balance is listed on the carrier overview page, so that simply needs to be added to the total assets, as well as the 5 billion cost of the carrier. And the installation costs of the installed services.
Last edit: 09 Jun 2020, 9:23pm
09 Jun 2020, 9:24pm
KryxixNew rare commodity type in Kuma system, at Elion Dock: "Nanomedicines". Price 2782/ton. (Supply 40.)
As per the now again operational GalNet News. Very cool.
I'd love to see an elaboration on Rare Goods, where they're not located in any ONE location, but are regional - throughout a system, or only within a certain MF's stations, and more valuable with either distance or economy or state... Delivering from a certain set of locations, to a certain set of destinations, i.e. specific trade routes with particular challenges to going through certain systems (maybe fastest route has no fuel stars reachable by a typical trade ship, or you have exceptionally vicious pirates to contend with, but ZOMG the profits!!) would really improve on the trader gameplay, since online tools and mining have made trading basically a money mill.
09 Jun 2020, 9:29pm
MojoroUnder Galaxy > Systems and Stations, could you add column sorting to the Megaships and Fleet Carriers tabs to match the Damaged Stations and Conflict Zones? And maybe set alphabetical default sort on Fleet Carriers.
I would like to, but tot at the moment, as I need to change how are data into the tables with pagination sorted. The carriers are sorted alphabetically though (by the standard station name/callsign, not by the custom name to not motivate people to use some wild names).
KryxixNew rare commodity type in Kuma system, at Elion Dock: "Nanomedicines". Price 2782/ton. (Supply 40.)
Thanks! I will update it ASAP.
DragoCubX
Sounds great! For the finances chart, I hope we'll be able to see how much each service is making in revenue? Only if that's sent through the Journal of course, not sure how detailed the information you will get is.
Not too fussed about jump history (though maybe you could add a field "next jump" or so that the owner can manually populate with a location and date. This field could then be deleted if the Carrier actually jumps to that location or the given date passes. Would make a "flight plan" redundant.
....
Not in that detail, I am afraid. The information provided are relatively detailed, but still limited.
I will take a look on that upkeep calculation.
NumaAsset calculation is currently wrong. I've bought my Carrier and deposited 3 billion in it's bank for outfitting and upkeep. Those 8 billion total were correctly removed from my credit balance, but not added to the total assets. So it looks as if I lost half my wealth today.
I see that the carrier balance is listed on the carrier overview page, so that simply needs to be added to the total assets, as well as the 5 billion cost of the carrier. And the installation costs of the installed services.
Nice catch,
Update: I have created a bug report here, please cast a vote/drop a note!
Last edit: 09 Jun 2020, 9:43pm
10 Jun 2020, 7:27am
10 Jun 2020, 7:40am
With the new Fleet Carriers cluttering up the galaxy, I would like to ask for a filter in the Commodities page to block them from cluttering that up too.
Look here, this is ridiculous.
Thank you.
10 Jun 2020, 7:53am
10 Jun 2020, 8:11am
Fleet carrier owners to attach their fleet carriers to a squadron.
Fleet carrier owners to attribute a public statement on their fleet carrier's page?
They inhabit a sort of grey area where the game reads them as a static asset but at the same time they're a possession of a CMDR.
Also I noticed that the name of my fleet carrier didn't update here when I changed it, unsure if that's a caching issue or if Inara is only reading the information once.
10 Jun 2020, 9:46am
Nathan AtterleinHey Artie, dunno if anyone gave you the heads-up already, but fleet carriers display wrong data. Upkeep was displayed to be nearly the maximum value, when in reality, it was around 9 million weekly. Haven't checked the other numerical data yet.
Hello, I am not sure where the problem is - was there services installed that shouldn't be present? The upkeep wasn't corresponding to he upkeep breakdown in the services list? The numbers seems to be alright now.
KryxixFound a bug with Jaralis system: "Ratchet Hub" station appears with strange name in Inara database.
Thanks, fixed. It seems this particular station is being reported under some scenario name now.
PetezzzzHello,
With the new Fleet Carriers cluttering up the galaxy, I would like to ask for a filter in the Commodities page to block them from cluttering that up too.
Look here, this is ridiculous.
Thank you.
If the situation won't improve over time and will get worse, I probably will rid off the carriers having a very low supply/demand. For now, it's not that bad and I also want to support player-to-player trading and do not want spend time on features that may be obsolete in a few days. I was also thinking about a dedicated page for that, but it makes no sense at the moment as all the trades are revolving mostly around Tritium, but the following days will show what changes or additions will be needed...
ÆphdhielleWould it be practical for -
Fleet carrier owners to attach their fleet carriers to a squadron.
Fleet carrier owners to attribute a public statement on their fleet carrier's page?
They inhabit a sort of grey area where the game reads them as a static asset but at the same time they're a possession of a CMDR.
Also I noticed that the name of my fleet carrier didn't update here when I changed it, unsure if that's a caching issue or if Inara is only reading the information once.
The name should update once your data/journal will be imported. You can "force" it also manually by clicking the Import Frontier data. The FC attaching to squadrons is planned, the "statement" may be interesting, I will add that to the list.
10 Jun 2020, 10:11am
Thanks for the update to include the FC.
I have a question but maybe it has already been asked.
INARA is still considering the CMDR "position" based on the last station we docked/last known system we visited, if I don't recall wrong. To search the nearest FC this is quite useless, when we are out in the Black.
Wouldn't be possible to find a way to calculate the nearest FC based on actual current position of a CMDR?
I think it may be quite helpful.
S.
10 Jun 2020, 10:37am
10 Jun 2020, 11:01am
Arne S. SaknussemmHello Artie.
Thanks for the update to include the FC.
I have a question but maybe it has already been asked.
INARA is still considering the CMDR "position" based on the last station we docked/last known system we visited, if I don't recall wrong. To search the nearest FC this is quite useless, when we are out in the Black.
Wouldn't be possible to find a way to calculate the nearest FC based on actual current position of a CMDR?
I think it may be quite helpful.
S.
I want to do some improvements, it won't however work well for manual searches without storing an entire galaxy anyway. For such cases, I have added an option to select a galactic region in the nearest search, check it out.
I suppose there won't be many FCs around when deep in the galaxy, so it should find something close enough and you will need to check that in the game if it's on the intended route then (which you must do even with precise starsystem-to-starsystem searches, if you care about the direction).
Nathan Atterlein@Artie for example, my carrier displays a weekly upkeep of 23million, when in reality it's around 8.9 million. Not sure if it's false data or I'm not getting something.
Well, there are three possible options - the journal is reporting the FC services you are not actually having or the services upkeep get significantly reduced for the release (and I cannot find anything about that) or the game is displaying it wrong/misleading way.
If do you can check the core and optional costs in your (in-game) budget screen and then operational expenses in your services, that may be helpful.
10 Jun 2020, 11:03am
Arne S. SaknussemmHello Artie.
Thanks for the update to include the FC.
I have a question but maybe it has already been asked.
INARA is still considering the CMDR "position" based on the last station we docked/last known system we visited, if I don't recall wrong. To search the nearest FC this is quite useless, when we are out in the Black.
Wouldn't be possible to find a way to calculate the nearest FC based on actual current position of a CMDR?
I think it may be quite helpful.
S.
Are you sure? I use EDMC to update my Inara profile live and so far it has always taken my exact current location, not the last system I docked in.
ArtieNot in that detail, I am afraid. The information provided are relatively detailed, but still limited.
I will take a look on that upkeep calculation.
Nice catch,please report that to Frontier. As I am currently looking onto the journal records, anything fleet carrier related isn't calculated into the overall assets value, so even the in-game statistics are wrong. I will think about some workaround, if they won't solve it in some patch soon.
Update: I have created a bug report here, please cast a vote/drop a note!
Okay, not too important anyways, can live without that detail ^^
Also chimed in on the bug report
ArtieIf the situation won't improve over time and will get worse, I probably will rid off the carriers having a very low supply/demand. For now, it's not that bad and I also want to support player-to-player trading and do not want spend time on features that may be obsolete in a few days. I was also thinking about a dedicated page for that, but it makes no sense at the moment as all the trades are revolving mostly around Tritium, but the following days will show what changes or additions will be needed...
I'd vote against removing carriers, would just make sending in market data for them pointless. Though if supply/demand is very low, e.g. <50, I guess you could remove those. But as you said, it's mostly tritium-related right now, and that commodity is the most carrier-related anyway, so it makes even less sense to remove it imo
Edit: One last thing: Once it's confirmed through Frontier import who's the owner of the carrier, can you let the owner update Carrier statistics through EDMC and the likes as well from that point on? Since at that point you know it shouldn't be false data from a troll
If it's supposed to already be that way, well it's not doing it.
Last edit: 10 Jun 2020, 11:11am
10 Jun 2020, 11:14am
ArtieArne S. SaknussemmHello Artie.
Thanks for the update to include the FC.
I have a question but maybe it has already been asked.
INARA is still considering the CMDR "position" based on the last station we docked/last known system we visited, if I don't recall wrong. To search the nearest FC this is quite useless, when we are out in the Black.
Wouldn't be possible to find a way to calculate the nearest FC based on actual current position of a CMDR?
I think it may be quite helpful.
S.
I want to do some improvements, it won't however work well for manual searches without storing an entire galaxy anyway. For such cases, I have added an option to select a galactic region in the nearest search, check it out.
I suppose there won't be many FCs around when deep in the galaxy, so it should find something close enough and you will need to check that in the game if it's on the intended route then (which you must do even with precise starsystem-to-starsystem searches, if you care about the direction).
I missed that feature. Good enough for me, THX!
10 Jun 2020, 11:19am
DragoCubXArne S. SaknussemmHello Artie.
Thanks for the update to include the FC.
I have a question but maybe it has already been asked.
INARA is still considering the CMDR "position" based on the last station we docked/last known system we visited, if I don't recall wrong. To search the nearest FC this is quite useless, when we are out in the Black.
Wouldn't be possible to find a way to calculate the nearest FC based on actual current position of a CMDR?
I think it may be quite helpful.
S.
Are you sure? I use EDMC to update my Inara profile live and so far it has always taken my exact current location, not the last system I docked in.
I update INARA via EDDiscovery and the flight log always report my current position too. Well, almost always...
But if I check my CMDR profile and when doing search in the "nearest" or "market" pages it always take as "starting point" the last system "known to INARA" I've been through. The last "orange" system in the flight log, to make it simple, even if I left it months ago.
Link to Inara Discord: https://discord.gg/qfkFWTr