Inara updates, bug reports, requests
When you try to link your accounts, you may receive the http error 400 about expired tokens. It's an issue on Frontier's end that I cannot solve on Inara. Fortunately, the solution is simple - please give it a few days and it will start to work later (probably when the access token on their cAPI server expires). If the error 400 appeared later and it worked before, try to reauthenticate as said in the error message (may be just a regular reauth forced by Frontier). Alternatively, you can try to use the workaround below. If even that won't work, it's the problem described above.
Please vote for the issue on the official bug tracker: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/21258
Possible workaround: Try to connect the account while you are in the game. It may work.
Game data and imports not available for console commanders and PC players with Legacy game version
Inara supports only the Live game version (so PC Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey) since game update 14, thus all the game data on the site and the commander data imports work only for those game versions.
16 Mar 2021, 8:07pm
Meowers So role of Anarchist is more about... worldview, to say so.
we are in a Galaxy thou!
Anarchist = a wasp in the GIants eye. (what I mean by this is that you cannot plan for an ANARCIST - they operate on their own free will with the ability of making mighty plans fail or cause massive fall out - Franz Ferdinand)
Very good book to read - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasp_(novel)
16 Mar 2021, 8:16pm
16 Mar 2021, 9:41pm
Sir SprockettHi Arite - a suggestion.
On the news tab you have the GALPEDIA which I really enjoy reading and learning about all these dudes, etc. Is there any chance one could search Galpedia for specific info. I saw a family name appear on a station name and I wanted to find out further info as to whom the name was referring to. It would be great if there was a link on the station/system etc page that allows access to the knowledge.
thanks Artie
I strongly support this, would be really cool to have!
17 Mar 2021, 1:02am
Rebels - got it covered already. They do battle and sabotage wherever it needed to bring a riot to successful ending. Once victorious in one place, they go to another to do the similar stuff, or they cease to be Rebels, switching to more peaceful roles, building up a business or going to an exploration trip, etc. Anarchists can do the same, but with independent factions/systems having almost all the attention, they unlikely to help any of the superpowers. And they won't be less Anarchists if they're not waging any war at the moment: any actions of an Anarchist are aimed at undermining the influence of authorities or at least not allowing the authorities to benefit from such actions. Or it can be a deceptive benefit, such as helping a faction that is loyal to superpower with their attempt to kick another loyalists from the system, only to turn the table in the end.
Freedom Fighters. They seem to be "Lawful" characters in terms of alignment. I don't know though how Imperial can be a Freedom Fighter. But their ideas don't prohibit loyalty to any kind of superpower or any other authority, and they aim to fight slavery, inequalities, etc., and "fight" here stands for open combat, for political means, for business competition, every kind of opposing yourself to anything you see going against ideals of freedom. Anarchists, while worshipping freedom as the biggest blessing, see authorities as this freedom's worst enemy. Maybe corporations too, because they seem to be the main power on "local" level. Any other folks that like to impair others freedoms, are second priority.
Renegade - an easy case. Anarchists can be "renegades" from systems, superpowers, etc., once serving somewhere, then changing mind about that stuff. But not every Anarchist had that "service, disappointment, red pill" story, many of them emerged from lower social classes. And not every Renegade would choose following the ways of anarchy.
Now, Outlaw. Usually, Anarchists are "on the other side" of the law, but not because of being prolific criminals. While Outlaws do murder, robberies, smuggling, drug dealing, trafficking etc. Anarchists see possible ways to gain profit not only by ways of crime: they just don't bother about "defying the law" in some way or another, yet still some Anarchists follow a moral code, that keeps them "clean" in many occasions, again, not because of law, but because of their personal decisions.
Another present roles I see too far away from comparison.
17 Mar 2021, 10:34am
DragoCubXSir SprockettHi Arite - a suggestion.
On the news tab you have the GALPEDIA which I really enjoy reading and learning about all these dudes, etc. Is there any chance one could search Galpedia for specific info. I saw a family name appear on a station name and I wanted to find out further info as to whom the name was referring to. It would be great if there was a link on the station/system etc page that allows access to the knowledge.
thanks Artie
I strongly support this, would be really cool to have!
Some comprehensive archive maybe later. But, the existing stations are already having the appropriate records assigned and you can see it on the individual station pages. There are still several dozens of names missing though (as each name needs to be manually verified - found on the wiki and decided if that's a credible connection, as there is no official source for it). So if you will have a name you would like to add, just tell me (it's usually a scientist, explorer, mathematician, sci-fi author, astronaut, etc.). I am quite curious about that family name and a possible connection.
17 Mar 2021, 11:57am
ArtieThanks. Well, my approach to roles is it should somehow respond to a question: "What that person does for a living?" Although for some roles it's not exactly an "occupation", there should be always clear what that role does. Thus why I am asking about the definition of "Anarchist" - anybody should have a clear idea what the commander does, not what is his "property" (thus there also won't be roles like "Liberal", "Handsome", etc.), if you get my point. I also want to avoid synonyms and roles very close to each other like the Mercenary/Soldier of fortune (aside the major exception of Terrorist/Freedom Fighter). So I am not entirely convinced the "Anarchist" is worth adding, as it provides no clarity and the existing roles are more specific (and quite a subset of it).
DragoCubXSir SprockettHi Arite - a suggestion.
On the news tab you have the GALPEDIA which I really enjoy reading and learning about all these dudes, etc. Is there any chance one could search Galpedia for specific info. I saw a family name appear on a station name and I wanted to find out further info as to whom the name was referring to. It would be great if there was a link on the station/system etc page that allows access to the knowledge.
thanks Artie
I strongly support this, would be really cool to have!
Some comprehensive archive maybe later. But, the existing stations are already having the appropriate records assigned and you can see it on the individual station pages. There are still several dozens of names missing though (as each name needs to be manually verified - found on the wiki and decided if that's a credible connection, as there is no official source for it). So if you will have a name you would like to add, just tell me (it's usually a scientist, explorer, mathematician, sci-fi author, astronaut, etc.). I am quite curious about that family name and a possible connection.
thanks this was a good justification. I am content with this
17 Mar 2021, 3:23pm
ArtieI think the "Revolutionary" is sufficiently covered by the existing roles "Freedom fighter" and "Rebel". How the "Anarchist" role should exactly differ from the existing roles (it's relatively vaque)?
Xylakihave an odd issue where the 'my fleet' page is listing a duplicate ship - any ideas how i fix this??
Please simply remove any duplicate ship in the ship edit. This may happen with multiple sources of journal imports and differing ship buy times, etc.
Thank you! Didnt know you could do that.
17 Mar 2021, 5:07pm
ArtieI think the "Revolutionary" is sufficiently covered by the existing roles "Freedom fighter" and "Rebel".
I somewhat expected this response, but I think there is a bit of nuance between these roles.
A freedom fighter may be fighting for his freedom, perhaps from slavery or oppression, but is not necessarily fighting as part of a broader cause/organization that aims to institute a new socio-political order.
And a "rebel" could be a teenager rebelling against his high school teachers by skipping class
... or it can be a religious fundamentalist. I think "revolutionary" has a much more specific meaning than either of those things.17 Mar 2021, 5:46pm
Kaizimm
I somewhat expected this response, but I think there is a bit of nuance between these roles.
A freedom fighter may be fighting for his freedom, perhaps from slavery or oppression, but is not necessarily fighting as part of a broader cause/organization that aims to institute a new socio-political order.
And a "rebel" could be a teenager rebelling against his high school teachers by skipping class ... or it can be a religious fundamentalist. I think "revolutionary" has a much more specific meaning than either of those things.
I tend to agree completely, but there is one nuance.
No socio-economic model is 100% implemented in the game. There is no concept of a proletarian in the game, everything is reduced to piecework. Therefore, there is no subject matter that can be transformed.
17 Mar 2021, 6:19pm
SnapStr
I tend to agree completely, but there is one nuance.
No socio-economic model is 100% implemented in the game. There is no concept of a proletarian in the game, everything is reduced to piecework. Therefore, there is no subject matter that can be transformed.
Ah, but this is like saying there are no cities on the terraformed worlds, just because we cannot visit them as players.
The logic of Elite's economy can only work if the commodities that we buy, are created by people, or machines operated by people. Same with the existence of large spaceship-developing corporations, and the construction/reconstruction of new and damaged space stations. As well as the various types of passengers we can take on transport missions.
18 Mar 2021, 12:38pm
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18 Mar 2021, 9:00pm
Claudette De La CroixI need help. My "ships" on INARA is outdated and I don't know how to erase/remove two and add my current actual one.
Click "Edit Ship", then scroll down. There's a "Remove Ship" button below the form. To add the new one, import Frontier data.
19 Mar 2021, 9:02am
I don't know if you are aware of this issue but the ship name as seen in here shows the wrong casing. If I name my ship in upper case, it shows in Pascal case here. I have verified that my ship was in upper case by double checking in EDSM.
Let me know if you need some help debugging.
Thanks
19 Mar 2021, 9:24am
GarudHi Artie
I don't know if you are aware of this issue but the ship name as seen in here shows the wrong casing. If I name my ship in upper case, it shows in Pascal case here. I have verified that my ship was in upper case by double checking in EDSM.
Let me know if you need some help debugging.
Thanks
Hello, yes, that's an intended behavior for the fleet carrier names. As their names are all uppercase in the journals, I am converting is into something more regular. Partly because I do not want to have the names "shouty" to match the other station names, partly because I do not want to motivate people using it as some kind of emphasizing their carrier name in the commodity/market listings (that includes manual name edits).
Link to Inara Discord: https://discord.gg/qfkFWTr