Inara updates, bug reports, requests

Commanders having Elite from Epic games store with http 400 error
When you try to link your accounts, you may receive the http error 400 about expired tokens. It's an issue on Frontier's end that I cannot solve on Inara. Fortunately, the solution is simple - please give it a few days and it will start to work later (probably when the access token on their cAPI server expires). If the error 400 appeared later and it worked before, try to reauthenticate as said in the error message (may be just a regular reauth forced by Frontier). Alternatively, you can try to use the workaround below. If even that won't work, it's the problem described above.
Please vote for the issue on the official bug tracker: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/21258

Possible workaround: Try to connect the account while you are in the game. It may work.

Game data and imports not available for console commanders and PC players with Legacy game version
Inara supports only the Live game version (so PC Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey) since game update 14, thus all the game data on the site and the commander data imports work only for those game versions.
02 Feb 2022, 2:11pm
Greetings, would it be possible to mark "related" minor factions similar to "player"-factions?
Like playerfactions are marked with [player] in e.g. the system-overview a similar tag like [related] would be really handy from my point of view!
Thanks for all your work and I really would appreciate it if you would take this in consideration.
Sincerly
Conparator
02 Feb 2022, 3:02pm
ConparatorGreetings, would it be possible to mark "related" minor factions similar to "player"-factions?
Like playerfactions are marked with [player] in e.g. the system-overview a similar tag like [related] would be really handy from my point of view!
Thanks for all your work and I really would appreciate it if you would take this in consideration.
Sincerly
Conparator


There is already a "N" for native. What would "related" mean?
02 Feb 2022, 3:29pm
Aunty Sledge
ConparatorGreetings, would it be possible to mark "related" minor factions similar to "player"-factions?
Like playerfactions are marked with [player] in e.g. the system-overview a similar tag like [related] would be really handy from my point of view!
Thanks for all your work and I really would appreciate it if you would take this in consideration.
Sincerly
Conparator



There is already a "N" for native. What would "related" mean?


"Related" is a tag which is already implemented in Inara but only visible if you go on a minor faction's overview-page. It means that the faction did not get implemented by a playergroup, so it is by origin an "NPC-Faction" (sorry, I don't know a better term) but a squadron on Inara "adopted" it as their "faction". Here is a random example: https://inara.cz/minorfaction/78767/

"Native" means something completely different in terms of BGS.
02 Feb 2022, 5:16pm
Conparator
Aunty Sledge
ConparatorGreetings, would it be possible to mark "related" minor factions similar to "player"-factions?
Like playerfactions are marked with [player] in e.g. the system-overview a similar tag like [related] would be really handy from my point of view!
Thanks for all your work and I really would appreciate it if you would take this in consideration.
Sincerly
Conparator


There is already a "N" for native. What would "related" mean?


"Related" is a tag which is already implemented in Inara but only visible if you go on a minor faction's overview-page. It means that the faction did not get implemented by a playergroup, so it is by origin an "NPC-Faction" (sorry, I don't know a better term) but a squadron on Inara "adopted" it as their "faction". Here is a random example: https://inara.cz/minorfaction/78767/

"Native" means something completely different in terms of BGS.


I didn't know that was a thing, you live and learn.

None of my business really to comment, but too late now. Are you saying in the faction list of a system report where there are "N" for native and "[Player]" for player factions there also be (for example) an "R" for factions that are related to a squadron? I can certainly see the value of knowing which faction have a player base associated with it.
02 Feb 2022, 10:35pm
This solution was actually previously implemented by Artie, although back then it was an "adopted" tag for player-adopted NPC factions.
Since Artie introduced the new system of Player/Related/Supported, no such tag has appeared in the faction list overview.
Seems like a good idea to me.
03 Feb 2022, 4:19am
Aunty Sledge
Conparator
Aunty Sledge

There is already a "N" for native. What would "related" mean?



"Related" is a tag which is already implemented in Inara but only visible if you go on a minor faction's overview-page. It means that the faction did not get implemented by a playergroup, so it is by origin an "NPC-Faction" (sorry, I don't know a better term) but a squadron on Inara "adopted" it as their "faction". Here is a random example: https://inara.cz/minorfaction/78767/

"Native" means something completely different in terms of BGS.



I didn't know that was a thing, you live and learn.

None of my business really to comment, but too late now. Are you saying in the faction list of a system report where there are "N" for native and "[Player]" for player factions there also be (for example) an "R" for factions that are related to a squadron? I can certainly see the value of knowing which faction have a player base associated with it.


Perhaps also factions that facilitate engineer/permit unlocks could be marked as well?

Also unrelated, but Inara keeps showing me as a guest even though I'm logged in. But when I hit "Log In" it just takes me straight to the front page, with me properly logged in. This has been happening since I had to create a new user profile in my browser. What is going on?
03 Feb 2022, 9:21am
Feature request: Trade Routes Searches> Option to set minimum Demand (in addition to, or combined with, the one for Supply).

Edit: alternatively, if the Demand at a station is less than 4x your entered Cargo size it could be either highlighted red or automatically filtered.
Edit2: Also, it looks like there's a bug in route results.
Note the 2nd station profit indicator in gold appears to be a duplicate of the 1 station in route's profit value.


Last edit: 03 Feb 2022, 9:31am
03 Feb 2022, 11:31am
Burstar the Always on Time for DinnerFeature request: Trade Routes Searches> Option to set minimum Demand (in addition to, or combined with, the one for Supply).

Edit: alternatively, if the Demand at a station is less than 4x your entered Cargo size it could be either highlighted red or automatically filtered.
Edit2: Also, it looks like there's a bug in route results.
Note the 2nd station profit indicator in gold appears to be a duplicate of the 1 station in route's profit value.

Thanks for the report, the display bug was fixed.
There are no plans to add a demand limit option (at least until something will change in the game), because for non-mined commodities it plays almost no role. Even for zero demand, you can still get a profit when the station's selling price is high enough. So for already zero demands, Inara is already showing the actual "real" price and for rest of the "near to be zero demand" the price difference is quite negligible once the zero demand is met during the transaction (until the new market state will get to Inara, to reflect its changes).

ConparatorGreetings, would it be possible to mark "related" minor factions similar to "player"-factions?
Like playerfactions are marked with [player] in e.g. the system-overview a similar tag like [related] would be really handy from my point of view!
Thanks for all your work and I really would appreciate it if you would take this in consideration.
Sincerly
Conparator

Probably not. Although there may be a couple of NPC factions that may have a regular player support, most of the factions are set just because they can be set without any real activity (and there also can be multiple squadron set as related, in opposite of PMFs). I do not want to hint any kind of "ownership" over NPC factions as it often may be odd (like for the "core" minor factions like Pilot's Federation), misleading or simply misused (setting NPC factions around your area in a hope it will detract other squadrons). Previously, I was setting a flag for those adopted factions, but it was a burden often leading to disputes and I simply do not want to deal with - it was always about: "Why they have it set and we are not?"

So any squadrons considered (by themselves) as somehow related to an NPC faction are displayed in the minor faction details, but that's it.
03 Feb 2022, 12:13pm
Artie
Burstar the Always on Time for DinnerFeature request: Trade Routes Searches> Option to set minimum Demand (in addition to, or combined with, the one for Supply).

Edit: alternatively, if the Demand at a station is less than 4x your entered Cargo size it could be either highlighted red or automatically filtered.
Edit2: Also, it looks like there's a bug in route results.
Note the 2nd station profit indicator in gold appears to be a duplicate of the 1 station in route's profit value.


Thanks for the report, the display bug was fixed.
There are no plans to add a demand limit option (at least until something will change in the game), because for non-mined commodities it plays almost no role.


The suggestion was not just due to pricing differences. With the recent change to BGS trading influence it would also help in finding stations where trading might be most beneficial. Would it be possible to have the demand bars, as seen in the in game commodities screen, reflected in Inara?
03 Feb 2022, 12:15pm
Artie
ConparatorGreetings, would it be possible to mark "related" minor factions similar to "player"-factions?
Like playerfactions are marked with [player] in e.g. the system-overview a similar tag like [related] would be really handy from my point of view!
Thanks for all your work and I really would appreciate it if you would take this in consideration.
Sincerly
Conparator


Probably not. Although there may be a couple of NPC factions that may have a regular player support, most of the factions are set just because they can be set without any real activity (and there also can be multiple squadron set as related, in opposite of PMFs). I do not want to hint any kind of "ownership" over NPC factions as it often may be odd (like for the "core" minor factions like Pilot's Federation), misleading or simply misused (setting NPC factions around your area in a hope it will detract other squadrons). Previously, I was setting a flag for those adopted factions, but it was a burden often leading to disputes and I simply do not want to deal with - it was always about: "Why they have it set and we are not?"

So any squadrons considered (by themselves) as somehow related to an NPC faction are displayed in the minor faction details, but that's it.
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Alright. Sorry for bothering you with this
03 Feb 2022, 12:59pm
Conparator
Alright. Sorry for bothering you with this

Not bothering at all! I understand the demand for it, it just has consequences I would like to avoid.

Burstar the Always on Time for Dinner
The suggestion was not just due to pricing differences. With the recent change to BGS trading influence it would also help in finding stations where trading might be most beneficial. Would it be possible to have the demand bars, as seen in the in game commodities screen, reflected in Inara?

Ah, I see, that makes sense. Well, I certainly won't add that option for the trade routes (because many people looking for a profit will be setting it not realizing it doesn't matter (even if I write it there) and then complaining Inara doesn't provide that much good routes), but I will think about that for some other place...
05 Feb 2022, 1:43pm
This is a weird feature request:
Could you make stuff like crafting lists, Inventory, etc in a decent printable format?
As a console player who dislikes to use their phone it would really help out!
05 Feb 2022, 6:11pm
Hey Artie, any ideas way I have so many rank updates in my achievements history? I1s there an issue with the sync of EDDiscovery?
Thx
07 Feb 2022, 8:12am
Its ERROR ?

https://inara.cz/engineer/31/
for Manticore Hip fire accuracy +30%

in game :
https://i.imgur.com/RVHpInp.png

Is the blue stripe 30%?
07 Feb 2022, 12:27pm
SergMxIts ERROR ?

https://inara.cz/engineer/31/
for Manticore Hip fire accuracy +30%

in game :
https://i.imgur.com/RVHpInp.png

Is the blue stripe 30%?

Yes, thanks for the report! It seemed to be correct when I was gathering the data back then, but how it seems it's actually behaving like the suit damage reduction mods (so it's not technically increasing accuracy but decreasing inaccuracy). I have adjusted the mods accordingly and now I wonder if that's also a case for the stability mods (or any other) as the data were pretty scarce back then.

J. Louis CypherHey Artie, any ideas way I have so many rank updates in my achievements history? I1s there an issue with the sync of EDDiscovery?
Thx

Hello, it's a bug in the journal. For some reason it's throwing two Promotion events into the journal shortly after each other, one with the correct rank and one with the incorrect. I have reported it to Frontier, for now please just remove any excessive events from your achievements history.

HojothefoolThis is a weird feature request:
Could you make stuff like crafting lists, Inventory, etc in a decent printable format?
As a console player who dislikes to use their phone it would really help out!

I will put that onto todo list, but no promises.

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