Inara updates, bug reports, requests

Commanders having Elite from Epic games store with http 400 error
When you try to link your accounts, you may receive the http error 400 about expired tokens. It's an issue on Frontier's end that I cannot solve on Inara. Fortunately, the solution is simple - please give it a few days and it will start to work later (probably when the access token on their cAPI server expires). If the error 400 appeared later and it worked before, try to reauthenticate as said in the error message (may be just a regular reauth forced by Frontier). Alternatively, you can try to use the workaround below. If even that won't work, it's the problem described above.
Please vote for the issue on the official bug tracker: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/21258

Possible workaround: Try to connect the account while you are in the game. It may work.

Game data and imports not available for console commanders and PC players with Legacy game version
Inara supports only the Live game version (so PC Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey) since game update 14, thus all the game data on the site and the commander data imports work only for those game versions.
18 Feb 2016, 7:52am
Laynor Luna LagoonaHey Artie

can you build a tracker that would record the IP used by a member of inara and store it in the database.
and then, each time a new IP is used on the same account, record it in the DB.
and finally, run a CRON that would do a cross control on each Account/IP to find if some accountS have a duplicate IP address.

And at the end, TAG duplicate account. (just under Inara supporters by exemple)
OR show it only for member of inara that is at least Squadron Leader only (as they can Accept new member in the wing)

All of that would help to find who create fake account, that is created only for spy other wing.

possible ?


I'm not sure how I feel about that. It's generally considered bad form to share user IPs with other users for privacy reasons. Of course the owner of the site can see IPs, there is no getting around that as it is the nature of the technology. But beyond that, I suppose it would be ok for wing leaders to be able to see the IPs of their own wing members but to put an indicator under the Avatar of every user on the forum (Even if it omits the IP)?

That I strongly disagree with. True there will be spies but that's an aspect of any online game, but I don't think that's a valid reason to encroach on people anonymity. People may have multiple reasons to have more than one account, they're not necessarily spies. Some people share the same IP because their in the same household, went to the same coffee shop and used the WiFi there or have a common NAT'd IPv4 IP address while their actually on an IPv6 address (As is the case for some ISPs in Europe), etc etc. This could open up some people to unfair criticism and mistrust because of something that is beyond their control and not their fault.

So to reiterate...

Artie seeing everyone's IPs: OK (There is no choice here)
Wing Leaders seeing their users IPs, or a Unique user ID: OK
Everyone else seeing IPs or a Unique user ID, or some sort of shared IP indicator: NO

That's my thought as someone in the IT field anyway. I've been down this road before and seen it go wrong, I'd rather not see that happen here. Slippery slope and all that.
18 Feb 2016, 9:25am
My girlfriend and I come off of the same modem. It registers as "possible duplicity" for our accounts. Your wing cmdr can already see possible duplicity situations.
18 Feb 2016, 9:42am
ZATZAi
Laynor Luna LagoonaHey Artie

can you build a tracker that would record the IP used by a member of inara and store it in the database.
and then, each time a new IP is used on the same account, record it in the DB.
and finally, run a CRON that would do a cross control on each Account/IP to find if some accountS have a duplicate IP address.

And at the end, TAG duplicate account. (just under Inara supporters by exemple)
OR show it only for member of inara that is at least Squadron Leader only (as they can Accept new member in the wing)

All of that would help to find who create fake account, that is created only for spy other wing.

possible ?



I'm not sure how I feel about that. It's generally considered bad form to share user IPs with other users for privacy reasons. Of course the owner of the site can see IPs, there is no getting around that as it is the nature of the technology. But beyond that, I suppose it would be ok for wing leaders to be able to see the IPs of their own wing members but to put an indicator under the Avatar of every user on the forum (Even if it omits the IP)?

That I strongly disagree with. True there will be spies but that's an aspect of any online game, but I don't think that's a valid reason to encroach on people anonymity. People may have multiple reasons to have more than one account, they're not necessarily spies. Some people share the same IP because their in the same household, went to the same coffee shop and used the WiFi there or have a common NAT'd IPv4 IP address while their actually on an IPv6 address (As is the case for some ISPs in Europe), etc etc. This could open up some people to unfair criticism and mistrust because of something that is beyond their control and not their fault.

So to reiterate...

Artie seeing everyone's IPs: OK (There is no choice here)
Wing Leaders seeing their users IPs, or a Unique user ID: OK
Everyone else seeing IPs or a Unique user ID, or some sort of shared IP indicator: NO

That's my thought as someone in the IT field anyway. I've been down this road before and seen it go wrong, I'd rather not see that happen here. Slippery slope and all that.


i can not imagine arti would show anyone's ip , like you said as it is only almost a unique identifiyer.

what arti has done is to ''flag'' possible multi-accounts , and the flag is shown on aplications to a wing as a comment.
so basicly both of you already have what you want in place .
while i do not know how much cross ref is done i do know we never see an ip address
18 Feb 2016, 12:59pm
Just to make it clear - I won't display users' IPs, e-mail addresses or any other credentials to anyone here ever. This is simply "no go". And I think it wasn't Laynor's point anyway. But as there was also mentioned by Zatzai, any kind of duplicated account checks can be avoided or the results may be confusing, so the best option how to check commander validity is in the game at this moment. There is just brief hint in wing join requests on Inara's side to "mark" possible duplicated accounts of prospective members, visible just to high ranked officers of each wing and the measurement is just up to them.
18 Feb 2016, 1:07pm
Pir8
Well thats good news. Hopefully I can script something when you expose the API then.
How far has the consideration gone? If this is too "personal" please feel free to dance around the answer or PM me.

I have some brief outline about the data structure and what can be allowed to make with it in the start. Of course, everything can be improved later, but I prefer to include mainly stuff that may bring "data" to Inara rather than out of Inara there. But no specifics yet...
18 Feb 2016, 7:16pm
I have a question. Is the Roster able to go on Alphabetical Order? I'm just curious.
18 Feb 2016, 7:31pm
Yes, it is, just click on "CMDR" over the list. It will sort then by name, instead of rank.
18 Feb 2016, 7:36pm
Pavel ZuparaYes, it is, just click on "CMDR" over the list. It will sort then by name, instead of rank.


Thank you!! Now I can find my name!!
18 Feb 2016, 9:41pm
Hey guys I'm unable to sell any ship in My Fleet ATM.. I click sell ship under the edit tab and it just goes grey.. Nothing happens.. I'm probably being a total derp here but I gotta know how to get rid of it it's ruining my Credit's And Assets
18 Feb 2016, 9:44pm
Greschalt [BFA]Hey guys I'm unable to sell any ship in My Fleet ATM.. I click sell ship under the edit tab and it just goes grey.. Nothing happens.. I'm probably being a total derp here but I gotta know how to get rid of it it's ruining my Credit's And Assets


Lol this was meant to be in the General/game talk section but I also seem unable to delete any posts or even past posts in my credits and assets screen.... Any ideas? Sorry for posting in the wrong place
18 Feb 2016, 9:59pm
Greschalt: This thread is perfectly fine. After clicking the button, does confirmation dialog pop in? There you should confirm the ship sell. If no confirmation dialog appears, it may be blocked by some plugin in your browser...
19 Feb 2016, 1:01am
Yeah no pop up I'll have to check some browser settings I guess. Thanks for the info
19 Feb 2016, 11:49am
Artie
Pir8
Well thats good news. Hopefully I can script something when you expose the API then.
How far has the consideration gone? If this is too "personal" please feel free to dance around the answer or PM me.


I have some brief outline about the data structure and what can be allowed to make with it in the start. Of course, everything can be improved later, but I prefer to include mainly stuff that may bring "data" to Inara rather than out of Inara there. But no specifics yet...

Bit annoying the API has the ship and ships that way. If the ship object was in the format of ships and ships was in the format of ship we could update most of the inara profiles aspects automatically with some basic parsing.
22 Feb 2016, 4:08am
Gallery getting growded? Seems i'm unable to upload to gallery. :/
22 Feb 2016, 12:59pm
Warjo: I see no issues there, is it throwing any error message?

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