Inara updates, bug reports, requests

Commanders having Elite from Epic games store with http 400 error
When you try to link your accounts, you may receive the http error 400 about expired tokens. It's an issue on Frontier's end that I cannot solve on Inara. Fortunately, the solution is simple - please give it a few days and it will start to work later (probably when the access token on their cAPI server expires). If the error 400 appeared later and it worked before, try to reauthenticate as said in the error message (may be just a regular reauth forced by Frontier). Alternatively, you can try to use the workaround below. If even that won't work, it's the problem described above.
Please vote for the issue on the official bug tracker: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/21258

Possible workaround: Try to connect the account while you are in the game. It may work.

Game data and imports not available for console commanders and PC players with Legacy game version
Inara supports only the Live game version (so PC Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey) since game update 14, thus all the game data on the site and the commander data imports work only for those game versions.
03 Aug 2022, 7:30pm
Chase QuinnellSo maybe I'm just dense, but how do I switch back to the "old" Inara for now? Couldn't find the option.



Go to 'profile' select return to old INARA
03 Aug 2022, 8:48pm
Dark Session
It was not possible to accept it at all in the new version. I tried it multiple times and had to switch to the old version to accept it.

Thanks, fixed.

Mkz
Artie
Just to be sure - send me a screenshot, please.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/199PUThxDoGXSwrT9OA3Az3xTl8OAVLIz/view?usp=sharing

Thank you for the screenshot, I just wanted to be sure there isn't something weird going on. The link color was chosen to differentiate enough from yellow highlights (selected items, etc.). I however made a minor tweak to increase the contrast a bit just now, so it should be better.
03 Aug 2022, 9:24pm
Artie
Thank you very much for the detailed feedback and mockup image! Yeah, the squadron page needs some improvements and I would also address the commander page in some areas.

Yup!
Squadrons was just the first page where i noticed it, so i used that as an example

Overall i like the new Design. Dropdown Menus are easier to navigate than fixed on-click menus with page reloads. It looks modern and fresh
03 Aug 2022, 10:22pm
Loving the new look

I have a request for the Nearest search. Knowing the number of bodies in a system and the number of carriers I believe the database could know if a system is "full" or not (space is full hur-dur).

Could we have a "nearest empty carrier slot" search? It would be super useful for trying to park near a CG or Shinrarta Dezhra.

Thanks and keep up the great work! O7
04 Aug 2022, 1:49am
Artie
The link color was chosen to differentiate enough from yellow highlights (selected items, etc.). I however made a minor tweak to increase the contrast a bit just now, so it should be better.


Thanks a lot, really a bit better. Just a bit , but better
Maybe the problem is that I belong to those 8% of men with color vision deficiency. I belive I see all colors, but the fact that I'm unable to pass some color tests or have problem with some sites convince me otherwise For the color you've choosed I have to stare a few seconds on screen to start see the text clearly.

Please, if you will have time - add a color theme choise. Or make a more contrast theme. 8% of men is a lot enought, IMHO.
Thank you.

PS Maybe just stick with ED color theme? It uses something like #e1a50a or #e1a204


Last edit: 04 Aug 2022, 2:10am
04 Aug 2022, 2:25am
I love the new look!
04 Aug 2022, 4:17am
The lack of the shortcuts functionality and having some of the handy quick reference stuff buried under menus rather than being on the shortcuts is a step backward on usability, though a lot of other areas are improved. If you can figure out a way to allow commonly used pages to be added to an always shown element, that would be terrific.

Also, as another improvement, I love that you have filters added to the engineers, but there are two things that would be huge there:
1) Make it so multiple filters can be applied to prioritize engineers that have the most of the options selected to quickly find the minimal set to visit and prioritize the highest grade on the results.
2) Make it so that the unlock requirements and the available blueprints can be seen on the same screen to make it easier to decide which engineers are worth unlocking first based on effort required relative to what you get for the unlock.
04 Aug 2022, 5:16am
Well, after the changes it doesn't look ultranarrow on an ultrawide screen, but there's still 2/3 of the screen just wasted. One bug I noticed: Halfway down the full list of my fleet, the images are not loading anymore. Still very very unhappy and switched back.
04 Aug 2022, 8:51am
JonfittLoving the new look

I have a request for the Nearest search. Knowing the number of bodies in a system and the number of carriers I believe the database could know if a system is "full" or not (space is full hur-dur).

Could we have a "nearest empty carrier slot" search? It would be super useful for trying to park near a CG or Shinrarta Dezhra.

Thanks and keep up the great work! O7

Yeah, I will probably make some special search for that with displaying "slots" plus number of carriers present or something like that, as it can be useful.

Mkz
Thanks a lot, really a bit better. Just a bit, but better
Maybe the problem is that I belong to those 8% of men with color vision deficiency. I belive I see all colors, but the fact that I'm unable to pass some color tests or have problem with some sites convince me otherwise For the color you've choosed I have to stare a few seconds on screen to start see the text clearly.

I see, I thought it may be a case. I tested the colors for the common color blindness types and it seemed to be alright. Can you please specify the type you are having (here or into PM), please? I will make tests for this as well and look for the possible adjustments/options.

Setesh ZakemI love the new look!

Thanks!

AjhThe lack of the shortcuts functionality and having some of the handy quick reference stuff buried under menus rather than being on the shortcuts is a step backward on usability, though a lot of other areas are improved. If you can figure out a way to allow commonly used pages to be added to an always shown element, that would be terrific.

Also, as another improvement, I love that you have filters added to the engineers, but there are two things that would be huge there:
1) Make it so multiple filters can be applied to prioritize engineers that have the most of the options selected to quickly find the minimal set to visit and prioritize the highest grade on the results.
2) Make it so that the unlock requirements and the available blueprints can be seen on the same screen to make it easier to decide which engineers are worth unlocking first based on effort required relative to what you get for the unlock.

What stuff specifically you would like to reach faster, please? Although the shortcuts were useful, I always considered them rather as a crutch than a solution, so I am not very willing to put it back. But I certainly would like to have things have reachable as quick as reasonably possible, so some further improvements can be made. Good points about the engineers, noted.

NumaWell, after the changes it doesn't look ultranarrow on an ultrawide screen, but there's still 2/3 of the screen just wasted. One bug I noticed: Halfway down the full list of my fleet, the images are not loading anymore. Still very very unhappy and switched back.

Yep, I still need to limit the width though as it make some things actually worse to use otherwise. For example reading logbooks which are even now so-so. The "missing" fleet images are a feature to make the huge fleets faster to scan, but I will very likely change that to have it this way just on the smaller resolutions, as it seems to be rather confusing people.
04 Aug 2022, 8:55am
Hi,

Is it posible to add the credit balance of Carriers to the Cmdr Credit balance. So that the Cmdr credit page shows all the Cmdrs available credits ?
For example my commander page show 400mil as my credit ballance but I have much more than that in my carrier.

Thanks
04 Aug 2022, 10:38am
BL1PHi,

Is it posible to add the credit balance of Carriers to the Cmdr Credit balance. So that the Cmdr credit page shows all the Cmdrs available credits ?
For example my commander page show 400mil as my credit ballance but I have much more than that in my carrier.

Thanks


I is very easy: 4 > carrier-management > budget
04 Aug 2022, 10:42am
Feedback for new inara looking....

- can't see Infos. It's too big on a Smartphone. All interesting Things are Hidden.
- navigating is horrible, scrolling Most of the time.
- IT IS a mess to Work with.

Sorry Artie. I know you worked hard for it, but it is crueful.
04 Aug 2022, 11:01am
Upper menu for access quickly squadron discussions was imo much more effective and allowed ways faster overview and "movement". It looks nice to have a squadron's emblem on top of page all the time, but practically I would love much more have there functional static menu displaying number of new posts for each thread (all without need to scroll up/down) and offering quick access to it. New look is modern, more clean, but for some of inara's parts imo would work better less modern but more practical form.

Edit: maybe it is just a feeling, but it looks like old content which needed one page now needs two. .. different use of spacing?


Last edit: 04 Aug 2022, 11:10am
04 Aug 2022, 11:06am
BL1PHi,

Is it posible to add the credit balance of Carriers to the Cmdr Credit balance. So that the Cmdr credit page shows all the Cmdrs available credits ?
For example my commander page show 400mil as my credit ballance but I have much more than that in my carrier.

Thanks

Not into the credits history, it's problematic due differing timestamps. I can add the simple number of the actual FC balance there and I can also add an extra line into the graph, but it won't be a sum of the credits/assets+FC balance, but independent. If that's sufficient?

AvalonGGFeedback for new inara looking....

- can't see Infos. It's too big on a Smartphone. All interesting Things are Hidden.
- navigating is horrible, scrolling Most of the time.
- IT IS a mess to Work with.

Sorry Artie. I know you worked hard for it, but it is crueful.

Thank you for the feedback! I would however like to have some clarifications:
- What is your device screen resolution? A screenshot will help to get what you see, too.
- What you mean by "infos"?
- What exactly you mean by navigating? Going through things on the page? Using the menu? Something else? What you would like to have changed and how?

Martind ForlonUpper menu for access quickly squadron discussions was imo much more effective and allowed ways faster overview and "movement". It looks nice to have a squadron's emblem on top of page all the time, but practically I would love much more have there functional static menu displaying number of new posts for each thread (all without need to scroll up/down) and offering quick access to it. New look is modern, more clean, but for some of inara's parts imo would work better less modern but more practical form.

I am considering to change discussions into classic threaded model in the future, so having threads in the menu is not much an option. Even now, some squadron discussions are/were quite big for that. Will some shortcut on thread page to the page with all new posts or so help?
04 Aug 2022, 11:35am
Artie
There was no behavior change in ship naming between versions - all caps names may be converted while imported, but you can adjust that in the ship edit.


Strange, it used to be correct. If I edit it in Inara would it change back on the next fdev import?

Artie
I think that I can add such search option there, but not soon as I have some things I want to finish first, but noted.


Thanks. Been meaning to ask for a while so no rush

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