Inara updates, bug reports, requests

Commanders having Elite from Epic games store with http 400 error
When you try to link your accounts, you may receive the http error 400 about expired tokens. It's an issue on Frontier's end that I cannot solve on Inara. Fortunately, the solution is simple - please give it a few days and it will start to work later (probably when the access token on their cAPI server expires). If the error 400 appeared later and it worked before, try to reauthenticate as said in the error message (may be just a regular reauth forced by Frontier). Alternatively, you can try to use the workaround below. If even that won't work, it's the problem described above.
Please vote for the issue on the official bug tracker: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/21258

Possible workaround: Try to connect the account while you are in the game. It may work.

Game data and imports not available for console commanders and PC players with Legacy game version
Inara supports only the Live game version (so PC Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey) since game update 14, thus all the game data on the site and the commander data imports work only for those game versions.
12 Aug 2022, 8:19am
Not a fan of the new layout. Sorry.
12 Aug 2022, 8:43am
Fauconv
Artie
Hello, it does work, but as almost all stations has this service present it looks like everything is listed. Are you sure that Bosch hangar has no Frontline solutions at all? Because even in your own journal record, the service is listed there. It may be some new bug with the journals after update 13 if it's truly not there.


I am sure and lot of stations i have visited has the same problem

Interesting, I will investigate because if it's true, it needs to be reported to Frontier. Or can anybody else confirm it?

Enrogue ÓðinkárrNot a fan of the new layout. Sorry.

Well, the old site version or the legacy mode in the new version is still an option then.
Are there particular reasons you don't like it? Any feedback will help.
12 Aug 2022, 9:19am
Artie
Fauconv
Artie
Hello, it does work, but as almost all stations has this service present it looks like everything is listed. Are you sure that Bosch hangar has no Frontline solutions at all? Because even in your own journal record, the service is listed there. It may be some new bug with the journals after update 13 if it's truly not there.



I am sure and lot of stations i have visited has the same problem


Interesting, I will investigate because if it's true, it needs to be reported to Frontier. Or can anybody else confirm it?

Enrogue ÓðinkárrNot a fan of the new layout. Sorry.


Well, the old site version or the legacy mode in the new version is still an option then.
Are there particular reasons you don't like it? Any feedback will help.



Might be alone on this one but something that bothers me with the new layout is that there is a lot of dead space, specifically on the News page and possibly other areas I might be forgetting. The old version takes up nearly the whole page which in my opinion feels much more lively compared to the new one. Is there any reason for using less space?
12 Aug 2022, 9:33am
Hello Artie,

I quite like the new look Inara for tablet use, although prefer to use the legacy version on my second screen when in game (maybe it’s just familiarity but I find navigation easier in the legacy version while flying).

I do have a feature request, would it be possible to have a search function in our flight log that would allow us to display all of the times we have visited a given system?

After six years Playing the game I often enter systems I think I’ve been to (and EDDI tells me so if I have it running) but it would be nice to be able look back and see when it was last in system.

I don’t know how you manage to do all that you do all on your own. You are a legend!
12 Aug 2022, 9:41am
FauconvHello, it does work, but as almost all stations has this service present it looks like everything is listed. Are you sure that Bosch hangar has no Frontline solutions at all? Because even in your own journal record, the service is listed there. It may be some new bug with the journals after update 13 if it's truly not there.
I am sure and lot of stations i have visited has the same problem


ArtieInteresting, I will investigate because if it's true, it needs to be reported to Frontier. Or can anybody else confirm it?


can confirm that several station at colonia have a similar problem. for example, system Los, Murakami Gateway. there should be frontier solutions and apex interstellar but no sign of them.
ingame (the system map) tells you they are there but they aren´t present. have recognized that on many smaller / medium stations. also before update 13.. maybe a bug or new designed.


Last edit: 12 Aug 2022, 9:55am
12 Aug 2022, 9:54am
Hi Artie,

same question as above - is it possible to access the previous version of Inara? - scratch that, the info is literally on top of the news page - but i guess the cmdr stories that take a such prominent space clouded that part (see below)
Quite frankly i'm not exactly a fan of the new design -it may look better on mobiles, but it doen't really cut it on my monitor

also, is it possible to customize the news page layout?
i'm not really keen to have half page blocked by commander stories that, generally speaking, have absolutely no interest to me, not to mention that some are in languages i don't understand.
while the old inara also featured the cmdr stories on the news page, the new format is really pushing them in the front

one more thing - the settings section for the new inara is missing a lot of stuff that we can customize in the old inara - especially the privacy settings
i'm pretty sure you're well aware of that, but i thought to point it out

Thank you
12 Aug 2022, 9:59am
@Artie

Is there the possibility, to add an search function, similar like google;
you know, when searching for somebody, or something, but you don't have the exact name.

Take my Name for example; if you search for "Sir Duke" you won't get any results.
You need to know the exact spelling like "Sir-Duke" to get any result.

Well, I don't need to search myself, but maybe some other Commanders or a ship or something, when I only know a part of their name...
12 Aug 2022, 10:39am
Alex Hoffmann
can confirm that several station at colonia have a similar problem. for example, system Los, Murakami Gateway. there should be frontier solutions and apex interstellar but no sign of them.
ingame (the system map) tells you they are there but they aren´t present. have recognized that on many smaller / medium stations. also before update 13.. maybe a bug or new designed.

Thanks! I have forwarded the problem to Frontier, so let's see. I cannot do anything about it unfortunately, as those services are being reported in the journals, so I have no way to know they are not actually there.

Aetoate Bace
Might be alone on this one but something that bothers me with the new layout is that there is a lot of dead space, specifically on the News page and possibly other areas I might be forgetting. The old version takes up nearly the whole page which in my opinion feels much more lively compared to the new one. Is there any reason for using less space?

By the dead space you mean the sides of the page or padding in/between the content blocks? The primary reasons for putting more space there is to make things less "crowded" and also easier to read/scan (like logbooks, for example).

Shengar LandarHello Artie,

I quite like the new look Inara for tablet use, although prefer to use the legacy version on my second screen when in game (maybe it’s just familiarity but I find navigation easier in the legacy version while flying).

I do have a feature request, would it be possible to have a search function in our flight log that would allow us to display all of the times we have visited a given system?

After six years Playing the game I often enter systems I think I’ve been to (and EDDI tells me so if I have it running) but it would be nice to be able look back and see when it was last in system.

I don’t know how you manage to do all that you do all on your own. You are a legend!

Hello, the search in the flight log may be quite difficult and unreliable, because the logs are being compiled together into monthly summaries over time, which holds just stuff like most visited star systems, etc. but not all the data. So searching for particular star system visited earlier may provide no results at all, although you have been there before (but just once, for example, so it didn't make into the summary).

NorthpinHi Artie,

same question as above - is it possible to access the previous version of Inara? - scratch that, the info is literally on top of the news page - but i guess the cmdr stories that take a such prominent space clouded that part (see below)
Quite frankly i'm not exactly a fan of the new design -it may look better on mobiles, but it doen't really cut it on my monitor

also, is it possible to customize the news page layout?
i'm not really keen to have half page blocked by commander stories that, generally speaking, have absolutely no interest to me, not to mention that some are in languages i don't understand.
while the old inara also featured the cmdr stories on the news page, the new format is really pushing them in the front

one more thing - the settings section for the new inara is missing a lot of stuff that we can customize in the old inara - especially the privacy settings
i'm pretty sure you're well aware of that, but i thought to point it out

Thank you

Hello and thank you for the feedback. I will make an adjustment to the front page so it will show the Galnet news first on the lower resolutions, it's right these news are a primary interest for most users on this page. The settings you are looking for are now under Commander > Commander settings. I have separated the account and the commander settings, because with the multi-commander accounts I would like to do in the future it would be necessary anyway.

Sir-Duke@Artie

Is there the possibility, to add an search function, similar like google;
you know, when searching for somebody, or something, but you don't have the exact name.

Take my Name for example; if you search for "Sir Duke" you won't get any results.
You need to know the exact spelling like "Sir-Duke" to get any result.

Well, I don't need to search myself, but maybe some other Commanders or a ship or something, when I only know a part of their name...

Hmmm... yes, that's a good idea. I think that I can add something there, which may help with some results.
12 Aug 2022, 10:56am
Enrogue ÓðinkárrNot a fan of the new layout. Sorry.

I am not keen on it either. Am I missing something here as one of the things I miss most is the shortcuts bar. Is it there and I haven't found it yet or is it intentional that we have to navigate to everything now or bookmark each individual page in the browser?
I am trying to use the new version and always us Inara on a second monitor when I play Elite. It just seems to take much longer than previous to get to things.
12 Aug 2022, 12:53pm
I have to concur with Quilvein with regards to the shortcuts bar, probably the biggest deal breaker for me thus far. I also agree with Aetoate Bace with regards to empty space, I liked being able to see the tree-like browser on the left to switch between pages in the same category more easily (although I suppose that's been superseded by the "address" bar at the top). Thanks for all the work you've put in maintaining and improving this site over the years, Artie!
12 Aug 2022, 4:08pm
Artie
LifesAJourney
I mentioned import from EDSY, not Coriolis. It works flawlessly in the old layout, I use it quite often. But it doesn't work in the new layout.


Ah, for some reason I have read Coriolis there, my bad. I will take a look on that then.

Aleksander Majjam@Artie,

Hey. Is there a reason or option that I'm missing that's making me log-in from scratch each time I open a new browser window? Didn't happen with the old site, I was usually logged in unless I cleared browser history, cookies, etc.


There is no reason for that, it should work same as before. Please check if there is an 'elitesheet' and 'esid' cookies set in both of the windows, that are the cookies storing the persistent/current session information and if that's possible, try a different browser or try to disable all your browser plugins, to eliminate possible interference from this end. I am not unable to replicate the problem, so if the issue will persist, please try to describe step-by-step how to replicate it since logout and a new login (including the browser version). Thanks.


Arty, I checked my cookies I don't see the two cookies you mentioned in the list while logged in here. My settings are to accept all cookies.

> I open Chrome/Edge
> Navigate to site
> Login with my credentials
> The login works and I have access to the site
> I close the browser and all windows
> Re-open Chrome/Edge
> Navigate to site
> I see that I have to re-login with my credentials again every time I shut my browser down

This doesn't happen with any other sites nor even the original Inara site

Chrome is up to date
Version 104.0.5112.81 (Official Build) (64-bit)

Microsoft Edge
Version 104.0.1293.47 (Official build) (64-bit)
12 Aug 2022, 4:37pm
Quilvein
Enrogue ÓðinkárrNot a fan of the new layout. Sorry.


I am not keen on it either. Am I missing something here as one of the things I miss most is the shortcuts bar. Is it there and I haven't found it yet or is it intentional that we have to navigate to everything now or bookmark each individual page in the browser?
I am trying to use the new version and always us Inara on a second monitor when I play Elite. It just seems to take much longer than previous to get to things.

Illarion SovranusI have to concur with Quilvein with regards to the shortcuts bar, probably the biggest deal breaker for me thus far. I also agree with Aetoate Bace with regards to empty space, I liked being able to see the tree-like browser on the left to switch between pages in the same category more easily (although I suppose that's been superseded by the "address" bar at the top). Thanks for all the work you've put in maintaining and improving this site over the years, Artie!

Thank you for the feedback, guys. The shortcuts are gone as almost nobody was using them, but I may reconsider it in the future.

Aleksander Majjam
Arty, I checked my cookies I don't see the two cookies you mentioned in the list while logged in here. My settings are to accept all cookies.
....

This doesn't happen with any other sites nor even the original Inara site

Thank you for the details. It looks like a local problem and I am not entirely sure what may be causing it. The only thing that comes to my mind at the moment is that if you are accessing Inara via bookmark or URL autocomplete - isn't it putting address like "https://inara.cz/elite/news/?formact=User_Logout" there, so you are basically logging out immediately on the site opening? I should probably handle it differently, to prevent cases like this.
12 Aug 2022, 5:10pm
Artie
Quilvein
Enrogue ÓðinkárrNot a fan of the new layout. Sorry.



I am not keen on it either. Am I missing something here as one of the things I miss most is the shortcuts bar. Is it there and I haven't found it yet or is it intentional that we have to navigate to everything now or bookmark each individual page in the browser?
I am trying to use the new version and always us Inara on a second monitor when I play Elite. It just seems to take much longer than previous to get to things.


Illarion SovranusI have to concur with Quilvein with regards to the shortcuts bar, probably the biggest deal breaker for me thus far. I also agree with Aetoate Bace with regards to empty space, I liked being able to see the tree-like browser on the left to switch between pages in the same category more easily (although I suppose that's been superseded by the "address" bar at the top). Thanks for all the work you've put in maintaining and improving this site over the years, Artie!


Thank you for the feedback, guys. The shortcuts are gone as almost nobody was using them, but I may reconsider it in the future.

Aleksander Majjam
Arty, I checked my cookies I don't see the two cookies you mentioned in the list while logged in here. My settings are to accept all cookies.
....

This doesn't happen with any other sites nor even the original Inara site


Thank you for the details. It looks like a local problem and I am not entirely sure what may be causing it. The only thing that comes to my mind at the moment is that if you are accessing Inara via bookmark or URL autocomplete - isn't it putting address like "https://inara.cz/elite/news/?formact=User_Logout" there, so you are basically logging out immediately on the site opening? I should probably handle it differently, to prevent cases like this.


There is no logout command within the URL line. It looks like "https://inara.cz/elite/news/". Ah well.
12 Aug 2022, 7:34pm
Is there a way to block contacts on Inara?

There is a commander messaging me that I don't want to.

How do I stop him?
12 Aug 2022, 8:09pm
Ulon YuanshiIs there a way to block contacts on Inara?

There is a commander messaging me that I don't want to.

How do I stop him?

Yes, "My profile > Contacts > Ignored users" or "Commander > Contacts and favorites > Ignored" on old Inara.

Aleksander Majjam
There is no logout command within the URL line. It looks like "https://inara.cz/elite/news/". Ah well.

Then I am out of ideas. I checked also the logs and nothing unusual there as well. It looks to me like something (either some plugin or the browser itself) is clearing your cookies after the session end/browser closing/etc. If nothing else, at least "elitesheet" cookie MUST be present. If not, something is removing it, especially if you don't see any cookie there at all.

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