Inara updates, bug reports, requests

Commanders having Elite from Epic games store with http 400 error
When you try to link your accounts, you may receive the http error 400 about expired tokens. It's an issue on Frontier's end that I cannot solve on Inara. Fortunately, the solution is simple - please give it a few days and it will start to work later (probably when the access token on their cAPI server expires). If the error 400 appeared later and it worked before, try to reauthenticate as said in the error message (may be just a regular reauth forced by Frontier). Alternatively, you can try to use the workaround below. If even that won't work, it's the problem described above.
Please vote for the issue on the official bug tracker: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/21258

Possible workaround: Try to connect the account while you are in the game. It may work.

Game data and imports not available for console commanders and PC players with Legacy game version
Inara supports only the Live game version (so PC Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey) since game update 14, thus all the game data on the site and the commander data imports work only for those game versions.
09 Jun 2022, 12:20pm
ArtieWhile we are at it, I would like to get some feedback for the current Trade route search and Market pages.

I use the Market feature most for 2 reasons:
1) My personal usage (for BGS work) means I'm interested more in trade opportunities for the station I'm at (not general profit), and
2) It allows me to restrict the search results to favourite systems only.

I think a combination of the 2 where the current station is the default start parameter unless specified as a general profit search, but that also includes more robust search restrictions (ala my previous recommendations regarding more parameters such as NOT:faction/State/Superpower/etc..., or ONLY:favourites/government type/faction/superpower/etc...) and has an option to prioritize the high demand (ala the in game 3 green bar markers) would be wonderful.
09 Jun 2022, 4:49pm
Commodities don't seem to always update. For example, Colonia - Rossi Station and Colonia - Hashimoto Station show in INARA that Void Opels sell for 504,810/ton. When you go there with just a few tones it actually sells for far less. In the past two days I actually sold Void Opels in those stations to take demand down to zero. I sold for far less than INARA shows. Still, INARA doesn't update to show the real sell point nor the real demand (which went to zero).

Last edit: 09 Jun 2022, 4:57pm
09 Jun 2022, 5:59pm
DaisyCommodities don't seem to always update. For example, Colonia - Rossi Station and Colonia - Hashimoto Station show in INARA that Void Opels sell for 504,810/ton. When you go there with just a few tones it actually sells for far less. In the past two days I actually sold Void Opels in those stations to take demand down to zero. I sold for far less than INARA shows. Still, INARA doesn't update to show the real sell point nor the real demand (which went to zero).

Yes, those are quite outdated, please pay an attention to the price/market update time. If you want to help with the market updates (those are being update by a community effort), please use tools like EDMC, EDDiscovery, etc. which will upload the market prices to 3rd party sites as you visit the markets.

Burstar
ArtieWhile we are at it, I would like to get some feedback for the current Trade route search and Market pages.


I use the Market feature most for 2 reasons:
1) My personal usage (for BGS work) means I'm interested more in trade opportunities for the station I'm at (not general profit), and
2) It allows me to restrict the search results to favourite systems only.

I think a combination of the 2 where the current station is the default start parameter unless specified as a general profit search, but that also includes more robust search restrictions (ala my previous recommendations regarding more parameters such as NOT:faction/State/Superpower/etc..., or ONLY:favourites/government type/faction/superpower/etc...) and has an option to prioritize the high demand (ala the in game 3 green bar markers) would be wonderful.

Thanks! Yeah, I certainly want to keep the existing options and I have added an extra option for the selected minor factions in the development version, which may help a bit with such stuff. I won't be adding any extra major options there so far, but I may revisit that later on.

Syanna Deschaine
I'm a huge fan of the trade route view, this is a staple feature of inara that makes it unique and is often the first page I check when I visit. I admittedly don't use the market page that much, and if I want to find what to sell or buy at a specific station I usually use eddb.io (mostly for their convenient one-button swap to change a selling station target to a buying station target and vice versa).

Tbh I didn't even quite realise the overlap in information both market and trade route search provide; in my mind it makes sense to have two distinct pages if one collates the best trade routes in the known galaxy, and the other one covers trade opportunities at a specific station - and to design the different interfaces around this.

I'm not quite sure I even understand all of your specific suggestions for changes, which in a way is a function of the main problem that - somewhat paradoxically - inara suffers from: a ton of really useful features, but not always a clear path to advertising/showcasing these features. An example for that is the experimental on-foot equipment search: super useful, but hidden away in sub-menus to the point that even some inara veterans don't know about it.

So while I understand the urge to collapse similar information into one trade route page, and I don't think I would suffer from it at all, there is the danger of hiding too much functionality on a single page making existing inara functionality overall less accessible to everyone.

Thanks for the detailed feedback! Yeah, one of the main things why I am currently completely overhauling Inara is to make things simpler (in a meaning of site usage, not the functionality), easier to orientate in, easier to reach and that's also why I want to merge some things together and/or streamline it. My hopes are that after the changes, everybody will know where to find stuff without going through the pages, etc. and intuitively will find and use all the features present. Let's see, there definitely will be some open preview version/beta first to incorporate more feedback on that before the full site transition...
11 Jun 2022, 8:49am
I'm excited to see that major update, Artie.
11 Jun 2022, 9:11pm
Level 3 Scans are not updating. Everything else seems to work fine but this. Assuming this has already been pointed out?

Gary
12 Jun 2022, 12:40pm
MAD DOG MacDLevel 3 Scans are not updating. Everything else seems to work fine but this. Assuming this has already been pointed out?
Gary

Your numbers here on Inara seems to correspond with the numbers in the game as provided by the journal (and also can be seen in the Codex). So I am not sure where the problem is, but it looks like it may be something in the game. Is your in-game Codex showing a different number?


Last edit: 12 Jun 2022, 12:53pm
12 Jun 2022, 1:00pm
Thanks a lot!
Import is working like a charm again

Frog2001
13 Jun 2022, 9:17am
ArtieYour numbers here on Inara seems to correspond with the numbers in the game as provided by the journal (and also can be seen in the Codex). So I am not sure where the problem is, but it looks like it may be something in the game. Is your in-game Codex showing a different number?


I will check and provide either a screenshot or post the number..

Thanks,
Gary
13 Jun 2022, 10:31am
ArtieYour numbers here on Inara seems to correspond with the numbers in the game as provided by the journal (and also can be seen in the Codex). So I am not sure where the problem is, but it looks like it may be something in the game. Is your in-game Codex showing a different number?


Game issue. I have submitted a Bug Report and hopefully this gets resolved. Thanks for the reply.

Thanks,
Gary
13 Jun 2022, 4:06pm
My profile has stopped updating. I was asked to refresh the permissions, which I think I did.
Now I get the error that Frontier has not responded with an error code 200.
This has happened before but I can't remember how we fixed it.
Any help appreciated.
14 Jun 2022, 2:17pm
Can someone please explain Inara permissions. If I set my permissions to Friends only, but can then open an InPrivate Window and search on Inara without logging in, how comes I can see all my information?
14 Jun 2022, 2:29pm
SheehyCan someone please explain Inara permissions. If I set my permissions to Friends only, but can then open an InPrivate Window and search on Inara without logging in, how comes I can see all my information?

You can create a second acount, add this acount like a friend and then you can see from the New acount what your friends are seen of your information. I dont know another way. If you only need know (not friend) can seen, log out, find you in search tab (your username) and ready.


Last edit: 14 Jun 2022, 2:44pm
14 Jun 2022, 2:55pm
SheehyCan someone please explain Inara permissions. If I set my permissions to Friends only, but can then open an InPrivate Window and search on Inara without logging in, how comes I can see all my information?

What information exactly? I see all your information private while not being logged in (as supposed to). Well, except the basic fleet overview, highest ranks, basic commanders info and logbooks entries, which are meant to be public. For the fleet carrier, there is a separate setting for it in the FC edit.
14 Jun 2022, 3:41pm
Well everything really. I wish there was a guide to say exactly what information is supposed to be private and what I could keep private, being a private sort of person.

But frustrated that certain information appeared to be public no matter what settings were set.


Last edit: 14 Jun 2022, 3:46pm
16 Jun 2022, 8:48am
Hi, I've been trying to update my CMDR ZADOR for some days now but getting a persistent error for 12th June, would appreciate help with this, thanks!

GAME JOURNAL IMPORT 2022-06-11 OK
GAME JOURNAL IMPORT 2022-06-12 Download failed

There was a problem with Frontier's service while requesting the data. Please wait a couple of hours and then try to repeat your request.
[httpCode: 0, fetchCode: 28]

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