Inara updates, bug reports, requests

Commanders having Elite from Epic games store with http 400 error
When you try to link your accounts, you may receive the http error 400 about expired tokens. It's an issue on Frontier's end that I cannot solve on Inara. Fortunately, the solution is simple - please give it a few days and it will start to work later (probably when the access token on their cAPI server expires). If the error 400 appeared later and it worked before, try to reauthenticate as said in the error message (may be just a regular reauth forced by Frontier). Alternatively, you can try to use the workaround below. If even that won't work, it's the problem described above.
Please vote for the issue on the official bug tracker: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/21258

Possible workaround: Try to connect the account while you are in the game. It may work.

Game data and imports not available for console commanders and PC players with Legacy game version
Inara supports only the Live game version (so PC Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey) since game update 14, thus all the game data on the site and the commander data imports work only for those game versions.
11 Aug 2022, 10:56am
Mac4Thanks again, Artie.

Under our Missing Components section, there is now the phrase "No components to exchange, alternative exchange possible." What's this alternative exchange about?

It means that you can still get some exchange with material trader, just in much less favourable ratio. As it is generally rather a last resort for exchanges that you don't need to see all the time it's hidden by default, but you can view it by clicking the plus sign/button at the start of the row.
11 Aug 2022, 11:08am
ArtieIt means that you can still get some exchange with material trader, just in much less favourable ratio. As it is generally rather a last resort for exchanges that you don't need to see all the time it's hidden by default, but you can view it by clicking the plus sign/button at the start of the row.


Ty ty.
11 Aug 2022, 12:52pm
Please don't remove/deprecate the Old Inara view. I appreciate it being an option - please keep it as one.

The new look just isn't working for me at all. More info in less space is always better for me, since I have it on a side screen and want things at a glance. Having to scroll around, change pages, etc, is an activity onto itself and detracts from Inara being a helper and makes it a focal point. I focus on Inara to participate in discussions, but during gameplay, the new look isn't as helpful as the old look.
11 Aug 2022, 1:19pm
Die neue Seite hat mich sehr überrascht. Jedoch werde ich mich erst dran gewöhnen müssen, das alte Layout hat mir Persönlich besser gefallen.
Aber man muss mit der Zeit gehen und sollte nicht zu sehr an der Vergangenheit festhalten.
Freue mich über den frischeren Look nur muss man sich erst dran gewöhnen über die Leiste alles abzurufen.
Die alte Seite hatte ihren ganz eigenen Charme gehabt. Ich werde der neuen Seite ihre Chance geben eventuell ist sie ja viel besser oder auch nicht.
Ich werde in den nächsten Wochen nochmal ein Feedback absetzen und beobachten was die anderen Member von der Seite halten.

Danke für die Mühe die ihr euch gemacht habt, auch wenn wir etwas Undankbar erscheinen und erstmal etwas meckern mit der Zeit werden wir schon damit zurecht kommen.

MfG

A.E.K./DocInc
11 Aug 2022, 1:26pm
DocIncDie neue Seite hat mich sehr überrascht. Jedoch werde ich mich erst dran gewöhnen müssen, das alte Layout hat mir Persönlich besser gefallen.
Aber man muss mit der Zeit gehen und sollte nicht zu sehr an der Vergangenheit festhalten.
Freue mich über den frischeren Look nur muss man sich erst dran gewöhnen über die Leiste alles abzurufen.
Die alte Seite hatte ihren ganz eigenen Charme gehabt. Ich werde der neuen Seite ihre Chance geben eventuell ist sie ja viel besser oder auch nicht.
Ich werde in den nächsten Wochen nochmal ein Feedback absetzen und beobachten was die anderen Member von der Seite halten.

Danke für die Mühe die ihr euch gemacht habt, auch wenn wir etwas Undankbar erscheinen und erstmal etwas meckern mit der Zeit werden wir schon damit zurecht kommen.

MfG
A.E.K./DocInc

Thank you!

James HussarPlease don't remove/deprecate the Old Inara view. I appreciate it being an option - please keep it as one.

The new look just isn't working for me at all. More info in less space is always better for me, since I have it on a side screen and want things at a glance. Having to scroll around, change pages, etc, is an activity onto itself and detracts from Inara being a helper and makes it a focal point. I focus on Inara to participate in discussions, but during gameplay, the new look isn't as helpful as the old look.

Yes, I will keep the old Inara running as long as possible. But I will be straightforward about it - it won't be indefinitely, or at least not with all the features, because I will need change things at some points due technical reasons (for example like account-related stuff).
11 Aug 2022, 4:57pm
James HussarPlease don't remove/deprecate the Old Inara view. I appreciate it being an option - please keep it as one.

The new look just isn't working for me at all. More info in less space is always better for me, since I have it on a side screen and want things at a glance. Having to scroll around, change pages, etc, is an activity onto itself and detracts from Inara being a helper and makes it a focal point. I focus on Inara to participate in discussions, but during gameplay, the new look isn't as helpful as the old look.


This sums it up for me as well, at least at first glance, I can't do a full experience review at the moment because I am far from the bubble and most of the Inara functions I use are bubble-related. The new interface requires a lot more clicking to get to the same thing, with looking in between the clicks.
There used to be three menus, now there is only one. And some pages can't even be reached without first looking at, then hovering over the menu, waiting, looking and then clicking. And while waiting and looking might not seem like actions when you're literally doing them on the fly these are 5 separate actions to do while previously it only required the last two.

And I know from experience that it indeed won't be easy to keep both up because it doubles the maintenance, but perhaps you can integrate some of the old usefulness in the new design, which seems to have a lot of empty space.

Sadly I cannot do a full experience review of the new design
11 Aug 2022, 5:04pm
Artie, HI.

First thing to say "I like the Inara´s new look" , it´s good change thigs sometimes

I Have one things to inform and one thing to request.

- I can't find the information about conflicts and the system list in the squad page. I use this a lot to control pmf and update the inf for these systems..
- If was possible and you have time off coruse, I request one thing in this page (list of system from PMF ) include the distance from my location to the system in the list.

And good work, Inara is the best tools for CMD on Elite today.

Fly Safe o7
11 Aug 2022, 5:19pm
Hey Artie,
Stupid question but where do I go now to look up squadron rosters (not my own)?
11 Aug 2022, 6:34pm
QuillmonkeyHey Artie,
Stupid question but where do I go now to look up squadron rosters (not my own)?

It's accessible from the squadron front page, but I have added it also to the main menu (Squadron > Other squadrons) to make it more obvious and easier to access.

Ronaldo_ROArtie, HI.

First thing to say "I like the Inara´s new look" , it´s good change thigs sometimes

I Have one things to inform and one thing to request.

- I can't find the information about conflicts and the system list in the squad page. I use this a lot to control pmf and update the inf for these systems..
- If was possible and you have time off coruse, I request one thing in this page (list of system from PMF ) include the distance from my location to the system in the list.

And good work, Inara is the best tools for CMD on Elite today.

Fly Safe o7

Hello and thanks! The squadron minor factions are now on the standard minor faction pages, they also have quick links in the main menu, so you can get there fast. As it was quite confusing to many people, I want to avoid duplication the same content on different pages as much as possible, so it's there now. The distance from the current location is on my list, it's a thing I would certainly like to do.

Tharkon SW
This sums it up for me as well, at least at first glance, I can't do a full experience review at the moment because I am far from the bubble and most of the Inara functions I use are bubble-related. The new interface requires a lot more clicking to get to the same thing, with looking in between the clicks.
There used to be three menus, now there is only one. And some pages can't even be reached without first looking at, then hovering over the menu, waiting, looking and then clicking. And while waiting and looking might not seem like actions when you're literally doing them on the fly these are 5 separate actions to do while previously it only required the last two.

And I know from experience that it indeed won't be easy to keep both up because it doubles the maintenance, but perhaps you can integrate some of the old usefulness in the new design, which seems to have a lot of empty space.

Sadly I cannot do a full experience review of the new design

Thank you for the feedback! I believe that reaching most used things should be at least as fast as before, or faster (adjusting to new menus and layout aside, it's to a large extent a matter of habit). But if do you have a specific scenario(s) of the process on Inara you are using frequently, please tell me in detail and I will think about possible adjustments.
11 Aug 2022, 7:36pm
any chance to get the old inara back... the new design is so non practical.... better looking, but so unpractical....

aaahhh don´t mind, i found it....

thanx for making the new design optional...
11 Aug 2022, 8:51pm
I think the new design has potential, especially for mobile platforms. It's just not there yet. One quality of life change I don't like is that when new messages are made here, yes the new style will show what discussion tab has the new messages, but it no longer highlights which messages are actually new. Sure it's obviously the most recent posts. But how far back? The one new post? The last 14 posts? I like the old style where it shows all the messages you haven't read being a different color.
11 Aug 2022, 10:53pm
Artie
HuboI have a suggestion to not shrink My Favorite Star Systems (on the right side) when I am on the Star System page. There is nothing more on the right side, so it is not useful and almost every time I have to click Show More as the shrinked version is not the list of the most used ones.


Some people are having a ton of them for unknown reasons, so I needed to put some limit there to not break the layout. How many do you have? Maybe some adjustment will be still possible.


I have around 60 favourite star systems. But even, if I have 100, the layout is still the same, just the longer list on the right side.
12 Aug 2022, 7:23am
Hello,

it seems that filtering stations list with "frontline solution" does not work. All stations are always display. When I edit a station in inara, i can not edit "frontline solution" service.

Exemple : in FLOUSOP system, "bosh hangar" station does not have "fronline solution" service, but inara give this station like it have this service and i can not modify this service in station edit page.
12 Aug 2022, 7:41am
Light-HawkI think the new design has potential, especially for mobile platforms. It's just not there yet. One quality of life change I don't like is that when new messages are made here, yes the new style will show what discussion tab has the new messages, but it no longer highlights which messages are actually new. Sure it's obviously the most recent posts. But how far back? The one new post? The last 14 posts? I like the old style where it shows all the messages you haven't read being a different color.

The new messages are marked with "new" tag next to a date. But I will make it more visible, maybe it's toned down too much.

Hubo
I have around 60 favourite star systems. But even, if I have 100, the layout is still the same, just the longer list on the right side.

Ah, then I am sorry, you are one of the <1% people here not fitting into display limit at all and no adjustment is possible for this case.

FauconvHello,

it seems that filtering stations list with "frontline solution" does not work. All stations are always display. When I edit a station in inara, i can not edit "frontline solution" service.

Exemple : in FLOUSOP system, "bosh hangar" station does not have "fronline solution" service, but inara give this station like it have this service and i can not modify this service in station edit page.

Hello, it does work, but as almost all stations has this service present it looks like everything is listed. Are you sure that Bosch hangar has no Frontline solutions at all? Because even in your own journal record, the service is listed there. It may be some new bug with the journals after update 13 if it's truly not there.
12 Aug 2022, 7:53am
Artie
FauconvHello,

it seems that filtering stations list with "frontline solution" does not work. All stations are always display. When I edit a station in inara, i can not edit "frontline solution" service.

Exemple : in FLOUSOP system, "bosh hangar" station does not have "fronline solution" service, but inara give this station like it have this service and i can not modify this service in station edit page.


Hello, it does work, but as almost all stations has this service present it looks like everything is listed. Are you sure that Bosch hangar has no Frontline solutions at all? Because even in your own journal record, the service is listed there. It may be some new bug with the journals after update 13 if it's truly not there.


I am sure and lot of stations i have visited has the same problem

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