Elite: General talk

Aleksander Majjam
20 Sep 2023, 10:48pm
DescartesThe only reason to go to Colonia Is to unlock weapons upgrade engineers As far as I can tell


Went there once for that very reason. Was as quick as a Colonia trip could be, but I've heard of people simply setting up shop there and staying. Not sure why anyone would want to.
Vasil Vasilescu
21 Sep 2023, 12:41am
Aleksander Majjam Went there once for that very reason. Was as quick as a Colonia trip could be, but I've heard of people simply setting up shop there and staying. Not sure why anyone would want to.


I am sure some just do not want to spend the time (or if using a using a carrier, the time, money, and tritium) to return to the bubble. I ended up in Colonia because I was exploring and it was the closest place for repairs. I stayed for a while when I found I could make faster credits from mining there than in the bubble. A high value resource was never more than 2 jumps away from a station paying high credits for it. True, the prices were not as high as the bubble often sees, but a fairly consistent 500-600K per ton adds up quickly when the mining site and the buying station are less than 40LY apart.
Thinder
21 Sep 2023, 12:42am
I go to Colonia because I can, it's an exploration trip for me. I honk 3/4 systems at each of my Carrier jump, scan interesting planets, and it's good for a change.

You also can go through 3 or 4 different regions on the way like I did last time (Norma Expanse, Arcadian Stream, Empyrean Straights, Norma Arm), pile up tons of data and discoveries, and even in a straight line from base Wolf 363, it still is good enough for me.




Aleksander Majjam
DescartesThe only reason to go to Colonia Is to unlock weapons upgrade engineers As far as I can tell



Went there once for that very reason. Was as quick as a Colonia trip could be, but I've heard of people simply setting up shop there and staying. Not sure why anyone would want to.


Perhaps they have enough of the Bubble and exploration in this region is also one good reason.


Vasil Vasilescu

I am sure some just do not want to spend the time (or if using a using a carrier, the time, money, and tritium) .


Not a problem, if you have a good source of income, filling up your cargo with Tritium takes a little time but for me, the advantages are obvious:

I got my base, all my ships at disposal including exploration and mining, I can reconfigure them etc.

With what I have as Tritium on board I can go to Colonia and back without refueling, no risk of crashing on a planet because you're tired or getting stocked because your ship is damaged and you're out of Auto Field-Maintenance Unit etc.

In fact, for such a distance, I don't bother with a ship now, even for shorter trips.

Last edit: 21 Sep 2023, 12:50am
Aleksander Majjam
21 Sep 2023, 1:42am
Vasil Vasilescu
Aleksander Majjam Went there once for that very reason. Was as quick as a Colonia trip could be, but I've heard of people simply setting up shop there and staying. Not sure why anyone would want to.



I am sure some just do not want to spend the time (or if using a using a carrier, the time, money, and tritium) to return to the bubble. I ended up in Colonia because I was exploring and it was the closest place for repairs. I stayed for a while when I found I could make faster credits from mining there than in the bubble. A high value resource was never more than 2 jumps away from a station paying high credits for it. True, the prices were not as high as the bubble often sees, but a fairly consistent 500-600K per ton adds up quickly when the mining site and the buying station are less than 40LY apart.


My friend. You don't have to explain the benefits of mining anywhere in Elite.

I hail from a magical and prosperous time long forgotten of the Borann LTD3 spot. No war. No grind. Funny ass pirates that roleplayed stealing your precious LTD's. Stations well within the jump range of my Python that made me billions.

What a time to be alive.
Schmack
21 Sep 2023, 1:51am
Aleksander Majjam
Vasil Vasilescu
Aleksander Majjam Went there once for that very reason. Was as quick as a Colonia trip could be, but I've heard of people simply setting up shop there and staying. Not sure why anyone would want to.




I am sure some just do not want to spend the time (or if using a using a carrier, the time, money, and tritium) to return to the bubble. I ended up in Colonia because I was exploring and it was the closest place for repairs. I stayed for a while when I found I could make faster credits from mining there than in the bubble. A high value resource was never more than 2 jumps away from a station paying high credits for it. True, the prices were not as high as the bubble often sees, but a fairly consistent 500-600K per ton adds up quickly when the mining site and the buying station are less than 40LY apart.



My friend. You don't have to explain the benefits of mining anywhere in Elite.

I hail from a magical and prosperous time long forgotten of the Borann LTD3 spot. No war. No grind. Funny ass pirates that roleplayed stealing your precious LTD's. Stations well within the jump range of my Python that made me billions.

What a time to be alive.

I found my own "egg" several hundred LYs outside of the bubble toward HIP 36601. With my carrier just a short super cruise away, I filled it up with LTDs and made that 1.5 hops back to sell a few times.

Thinder
21 Sep 2023, 2:53am
It's a pity that I didn't develop mining that much, it's a part of the game that deserve some attention but not everyone is that patient...

I always have a mining ship onboard or when not, the whole equipment, so in case of problem I always can mine some Tritium and buy me some extra Jumps, I also occasionally appreciate collecting Elements, farming Raw is my least favorite...
Vasil Vasilescu
21 Sep 2023, 3:08am
ThinderIt's a pity that I didn't develop mining that much, it's a part of the game that deserve some attention but not everyone is that patient...

I always have a mining ship onboard or when not, the whole equipment, so in case of problem I always can mine some Tritium and buy me some extra Jumps, I also occasionally appreciate collecting Elements, farming Raw is my least favorite...


I kinda like making rocks explode, but mining does become monotonous after a while.

Yeah, getting materials planetside is a bit of a pain now that you must go looking for them. Before, planetary scans would show you exactly where to go. I suppose the current method encourages exploration. However, it was convenient knowing exactly where to go on a planet in order to find materials. Especially when, in the middle of an extended exploration trip, you suddenly realize you are out of what you need to synthesize AFM refills in order to repair all of the damage done to your drives by jet cone boosting
Aleksander Majjam
21 Sep 2023, 4:13am
Schmack
Aleksander Majjam
Vasil Vasilescu



I am sure some just do not want to spend the time (or if using a using a carrier, the time, money, and tritium) to return to the bubble. I ended up in Colonia because I was exploring and it was the closest place for repairs. I stayed for a while when I found I could make faster credits from mining there than in the bubble. A high value resource was never more than 2 jumps away from a station paying high credits for it. True, the prices were not as high as the bubble often sees, but a fairly consistent 500-600K per ton adds up quickly when the mining site and the buying station are less than 40LY apart.




My friend. You don't have to explain the benefits of mining anywhere in Elite.

I hail from a magical and prosperous time long forgotten of the Borann LTD3 spot. No war. No grind. Funny ass pirates that roleplayed stealing your precious LTD's. Stations well within the jump range of my Python that made me billions.

What a time to be alive.


I found my own "egg" several hundred LYs outside of the bubble toward HIP 36601. With my carrier just a short super cruise away, I filled it up with LTDs and made that 1.5 hops back to sell a few times.



Oh man, nice. Finders keepers, eh? What are LTD's going for now?? Or is that a now screenshot?
Aleksander Majjam
21 Sep 2023, 4:14am
ThinderIt's a pity that I didn't develop mining that much, it's a part of the game that deserve some attention but not everyone is that patient...

I always have a mining ship onboard or when not, the whole equipment, so in case of problem I always can mine some Tritium and buy me some extra Jumps, I also occasionally appreciate collecting Elements, farming Raw is my least favorite...


Mining was really the only thing that saved me from the sheer monotony of everything else that was going on. Then, however, there wasn't much. Didn't have legs, no goids really.
Thinder
21 Sep 2023, 4:54am
Vasil Vasilescu

Yeah, getting materials planetside is a bit of a pain now that you must go looking for them. Before, planetary scans would show you exactly where to go. I suppose the current method encourages exploration. However, it was convenient knowing exactly where to go on a planet in order to find materials. Especially when, in the middle of an extended exploration trip, you suddenly realize you are out of what you need to synthesize AFM refills in order to repair all of the damage done to your drives by jet cone boosting


It's one of the reasons why I changed the weaponry on my Corvette and I don't regret it, it's as lethal as before but I don't have to worry about Synthesis.

The repair thing too, exploring on a Carrier is a bit like being on a paying Luxury Cruise compared to using the Anaconda I had before or an Asp Explorer.

My Krait Phantom is well engineered for this too but with a small compromise in power to gain on thrust, the fit is designed for Fuel Rats work, it still give me 62.02LY Jump range (66.67LY max) with a full load, be it hangar vehicle + Limpet Controller + Cargo Rack and Limpets for farming materials or refueling and repair limpets Controllers, I also have a Surface Scanner fitted.

The thing that stops me traveling with a ship is basically fatigue, I tend to fall asleep (literally passing out) during Jumps and can easily end up with a badly damaged ship, Falling off Supercruise close to a Star, I also crashed my Anaconda on a planet on my first attempt to travel to Colonia for the same reason.

Traveling with my Carrier is safer and more comfortable, taking about which, I would do with a Captain Cabin and bunks on the ships, I log out from the Captain chair and end up like sleep walking in the Concourse when I log in...

Aleksander Majjam
ThinderIt's a pity that I didn't develop mining that much, it's a part of the game that deserve some attention but not everyone is that patient...

I always have a mining ship onboard or when not, the whole equipment, so in case of problem I always can mine some Tritium and buy me some extra Jumps, I also occasionally appreciate collecting Elements, farming Raw is my least favorite...



Mining was really the only thing that saved me from the sheer monotony of everything else that was going on. Then, however, there wasn't much. Didn't have legs, no goids really.


In my case it was Bounty Hunting (solo exclusively), especially since I engineered my Corvette and started to play the game in VR, to me sometimes it beats DCS since we had a lot of trouble with the Multi-Threrading/VR updates and my Pico...

I never get tired of bashing pirates with the Corvette, but for making credit, nothing comes close to the Robigo Mines/Cyrius Atmospheric Passenger Missions.

I managed to put 240.000.000 credit back into the Carrier account in <> 12h after buying and fitting a T9, plus 100 (from zero) Modified Embedded Firmware and 33 Datamined Wake Exceptions (I exchanged the previous 100X batch for those in CEOS), Exquisite Focus Crystals and another Grade 4 are also near 100%.
Some passengers paid up to 5.000.000 for a cabin, once you have the reputation it's all good.

Last edit: 21 Sep 2023, 5:10am
Talon Avex
21 Sep 2023, 6:59am
ThinderAnyone staying in Colonia?

What sort of supply/equipment do you find hard to get there?

I could stock some stuff in my Carrier and make the trip if anything in demand is in short supply, from ships to suits, the only thing I wont trade is anything related to a Bar Tender, I won't have one.

Just let me know.


I currently have both of my pilots in the Bubble, but I generally keep my explorer in or near Colonia. I'd say just go ahead and look on INARA to see what is and isn't trading well at the major bases (Jaques, Colonia Dream, Moore's...as examples). Some items you need for Engineering (that can be bought and sold) can be in short supply. H. N. shock mounts has been an item that I've seen only on FC's at times. It can be hit and miss at times on supplies.

Ships, except for the rank locked ones, can be found...but some are only available at one or two ports and can be marked-up by 5% to 20%. Same goes for modules.

At the end of the month, my explorer is heading back to Colonia. I can update you then, if you are not there. One other place you might want to take a look at is the Fleet Carrier Owners Club on Discord. You can talk to other commanders that have good trading knowledge of the area. Some rotate between the Bubble and Colonia and make some decent credits (from what I've heard) running supplies. Just be loaded up on Tritium...it goes for a very shinny credit out there.

I know this may not have the answers your looking for, but I hope I pointed you in a direction to where you can get your answers.

Last edit: 21 Sep 2023, 7:05am
Thinder
21 Sep 2023, 12:00pm
Talon Avex
ThinderAnyone staying in Colonia?

What sort of supply/equipment do you find hard to get there?

I could stock some stuff in my Carrier and make the trip if anything in demand is in short supply, from ships to suits, the only thing I wont trade is anything related to a Bar Tender, I won't have one.

Just let me know.



I currently have both of my pilots in the Bubble, but I generally keep my explorer in or near Colonia. I'd say just go ahead and look on INARA to see what is and isn't trading well at the major bases (Jaques, Colonia Dream, Moore's...as examples). Some items you need for Engineering (that can be bought and sold) can be in short supply. H. N. shock mounts has been an item that I've seen only on FC's at times. It can be hit and miss at times on supplies.

Ships, except for the rank locked ones, can be found...but some are only available at one or two ports and can be marked-up by 5% to 20%. Same goes for modules.

At the end of the month, my explorer is heading back to Colonia. I can update you then, if you are not there. One other place you might want to take a look at is the Fleet Carrier Owners Club on Discord. You can talk to other commanders that have good trading knowledge of the area. Some rotate between the Bubble and Colonia and make some decent credits (from what I've heard) running supplies. Just be loaded up on Tritium...it goes for a very shinny credit out there.

I know this may not have the answers your looking for, but I hope I pointed you in a direction to where you can get your answers.



Thanks a lot for your reply, it is very useful.

I'll be looking for the Items players need for engineering when available for sales, other than that I have enough Tritium for the return trip and Cargo space, it's just a matter of setting the Carrier services and stocks.

It's a mid-term plan, it could be weeks before I take off, but this will let me time to do things properly. Thanks again.
Thinder
21 Sep 2023, 1:38pm
I'm just trying something...

I purchased 5 X A-grade modules which I personally find useful when I equip a ship (Power plant for example), at the system station, then went back RTB and transferred them at a cost of 100Cr each.

I intend to sell them (in theory to my own outfitting service), I will check on their availability for purchase onboard the Carrier, if this works, I'll be doing the same at higher grade (up to 7) so as to top up the stock, selling them at slightly lower rate than average in Colonia might attract pilots in need of those modules.

I'm thinking D modules (for range/weight saving) and A modules for upgrade of new ships (Power Plant, Thrusters, Frame Shift Drive, Power Distributor, Fuel Scoop), this should complement the actual stock nicely, Advanced Docking Computer should also be on the menu, my actual stock is limited to D and E grades.


If I can find those modules at stations near by I should be able to limit the transfer cost, btw, I also visit the concourses and buy Grade 2 suits and weapons when Available.

Last edit: 21 Sep 2023, 2:26pm
User83098
21 Sep 2023, 4:46pm
selling them anywhere puts them into the ether...
anything you sell to a carrier is also gone, only you have a small window to rebuy sold items.
no one else will ever see them.

and as there is zero availability of powerplay modules or any type of discounts or special ships, etc....there is no reason and no way to ever get a ship or a module from a carrier at a reduced price.

shipyard and outfitting is useful to have on carrier, but is extremely limited

Unless they just changed it and I somehow missed noticing on my 3 carriers.....one has full load of shipyard and outfitting, total waste of space.

LYR is all there is.
and fwiw if your concern is price or profit, this is NOT the way, it is a convenience.

getting low rates is only useful for low rebuy for your insurance
and as nice as it is to use LYR and other discounts that come and go...
CREDITS are free for everyone, TIME is currency.

for people like me, price is meaningless, rebuy is meaningless..

Knowing where to buy things and how to get the easy credits, are useful and very old..

as for helping others...they won't thank you.

even being in colonia, makes no difference.

even with 3 carriers, I still pay huge credits very often to ship a ship....credits are meaningless.
Thinder
21 Sep 2023, 8:03pm
CMDR Milesredselling them anywhere puts them into the ether...


Yeah, I figured that so far, even the Grade 2 suits unless they already have been sold but it would surprise me.

Back to Apura, I'll get rid of the Vista Genomics service to make room for more stock IF Stocks of the Outfitting Service contains higher grade at Tiers 2/3...

Since you seems to know what you do, once I got a stock, does it renew when depleted elsewhere than in an Administration System?

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