Desert Fox CXVIIAll this controversy over stocks won't be a problem after the GLORIOUS PROLETARIAT REVOLUTION.
You are absolutely right mate, 100% agree.
We would have other problems, far more serious ones.
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29 Jan 2021, 3:36pm
You are absolutely right mate, 100% agree.
We would have other problems, far more serious ones.
29 Jan 2021, 3:50pm
ArtieI consider most posts here as a sarcasm, because it's quite obvious that the utopian socialism apparently doesn't work, despite the flawed efforts that are closer to previously hinted Orwell's Animal farm than anything else.
Precisely!
XeknosSynthya WylderBTW, not even addressing what I can't decide is either sarcasm or profound stupidity/Kool-Aid drinking...
Has anyone seen or recall watching the movie Trading Places (Trailer)?
It's more justified anger at how broken our system of capitalism is. People can barely make rent and keep food on the table, and the one time people band together to do what they've been telling us to do, they shut the market down to fiddlefuck with it behind the scenes.
You call it theft. I call it justice.
I'm not objecting to what's happening with the current stock market/investment shenanigans; what I'm objecting to is all the rest, re: capitalism, fascism, & socialism/communism/collectivism being the golden be-all & end-all solution, as depicted in that ridiculous propaganda poster earlier.
Only the blind, ignorant, uneducated & gullible would actually believe that claptrap. To those that would & do, I have a bridge in Brooklyn & waterfront real estate in Florida to sell them.
I'm not meaning to overly generalize, but most people with resources, worked long & damned hard to earn them.
Being able to reap & keep the fruits of their efforts is a fundamental aspect of humanity.
The trouble with collectivism is that, as was already posted, if everyone were equal in their resources, then everyone would be equally miserable & poor. As the saying goes, "Misery loves company".
For instance, if I sat on my @$$ all day & made a career of lamenting over how my hard-working neighbor has lots (more) than I do, & clamored for "Justice" by having the fruits of my neighbor's efforts given to me for doing relatively nothing but bitching & whining, do you think at some point my neighbor would think, 'Why bother? All I have to do is the same!' & then, from where do the Marxists & collectivists think whatever it is they get, is going to continue coming?
The main problem with Socialism is, sooner or later, it runs out of other peoples' money.
Mission, should you choose to accept it: Read George Orwell's Animal Farm, & Nineteen Eighty-Four, & Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged.
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Desert Fox CXVIIYo, who says "if anyone believes that bullshit, I have a bridge to sell you," and in the same breath recommends Ayn Rand as an unironic good read should not be listened to. This is coming from the self admitted shitposter. Rand's writing is nothing more than a libertarian fever dream fueled by virulent hatred of the working class. Fuck Rand
Agreed. Rand is a massive pile of horseshit. Theres a reason libertarianism doesn't survive long past college.
29 Jan 2021, 4:49pm
Has anyone noticed how star trek is 100% a socialist utopia? No money, no economy, no class, and no poverty.
EDIT: the Federation is portrayed as a socialist utopia, but libertarian societies like the Ferengi are seen as "misguided" and wrong. THE GLORIOUS SOCIALIST REVOLUTION IS OBVIOUSLY THE ONLY WAY FORWARD
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29 Jan 2021, 5:03pm
I mean, ideally, in a post scarcity society we would be full Star Trek. Let people follow their dreams without regard for "who's going to pay for it."
29 Jan 2021, 5:28pm
29 Jan 2021, 5:34pm
Synthya WylderThe main problem with Socialism is, sooner or later, it runs out of other peoples' money.
For the record, I wasn't promoting socialism, but I wasn't being sarcastic either. You can't preach the virtues of free market capitalism to the working and middle class and at the same time force them to bail out the wealthy elites whenever they lose money on their bets. That is other people's money, quite literally. And the bailouts haven't stopped since 2008. As you say yourself, this cannot continue forever, it's going to collapse one way or another.
Banks stopped paying interest on savings accounts to force people to invest in stocks. Now people did invest in stocks, and because some hedge funds got burned in the process, the rules suddenly have to be changed again. It's a scam, and people are becoming increasingly aware of it.
Even Ayn Rand promoted selfishness as a universal virtue; she didn't suggest to be selfish towards the poor but altruistic to the rich.
29 Jan 2021, 5:41pm
Yeah, it has its flaws, but none as severe then pure capitalism or communism
29 Jan 2021, 5:53pm
Amata Lirein*is happy to live in Germany and its social market economy...*
Yeah, it has its flaws, but none as severe then pure capitalism or communism
That is the best temporary solution until other issues are fixed. Most of the problems that remain are thanks to...special people... being in charge
