SonofMacPhistoHave I been calling Borggy's character the wrong name this entire time? My apologies, I must be drunk I mean my character must be drunk.
Luke3107Here's a nice middle ground.
It is in fact, just a run of the mill wristpad. But in the same way Luke has a taste for 20th & 21st Century Rock, Maschil has played Fallout via emulator or whatever and that's why he refers to the wristpad as a Pip-Boy.
Luke3107SonofMacPhistoHave I been calling Borggy's character the wrong name this entire time? My apologies, I must be drunk I mean my character must be drunk.
On quick review it appears 'Borggy' has only ever referred to himself as Mathius in the RP. So my answer is yes I'm afraid, you have been calling him the wrong thing
SonofMacPhistoLuke3107SonofMacPhistoHave I been calling Borggy's character the wrong name this entire time? My apologies, I must be drunk I mean my character must be drunk.
On quick review it appears 'Borggy' has only ever referred to himself as Mathius in the RP. So my answer is yes I'm afraid, you have been calling him the wrong thing
Dang it! I blame my years as a forum rat. This is the first place in my experience where a poster isn't regularly referring to themselves. Again, my apologies. I shall do better going forward.
Stryker AuneSo, yes, there is Leonard Nimoy station, orbiting a planet in game called Vulcan. How is that any different then us naming the moons of Jupiter and Saturn after mythological figures?
Tisiphone MoreauStryker AuneSo, yes, there is Leonard Nimoy station, orbiting a planet in game called Vulcan. How is that any different then us naming the moons of Jupiter and Saturn after mythological figures?
I'll just point out that Vulcan was a Roman deity before it was a Star Trek species (in fact, our word 'volcano' comes from him). When Leonard Nemoy died last year, the FDev team decided to pay respects by naming the most obvious station choice - the one around a planet already called Vulcan (after the god of fire, not the Star Trek species). This should be considered an OOC tip-of-the-hat and not hard canon in the Elite universe.
Maschil_CraneM. Lehman"Whoa!" Maschil declared with genuine astonishment while looking down at his Pip-Boy 200k. "These are some nice captures. You really do get around." Maschil looked up from his data-pad to see Mathias eyeing it with aversion. "Hey, don't judge me. I know, I know, this things ancient, but like my dad always said 'why fix what isn't broken?' Right?" said Maschil defensively. 'Maybe it is time for an upgrade. They are giving out the newest data-pads for free now... No, no, no. What am I thinking? I must be getting a little tipsy. I love my Pip-Boy it's always done me solid.'
Is there any way that we can avoid shoehorning items from other sci-fi contexts? It severely weakens the RP that is assumed to take place in the Elite universe.
Perhaps any the following?
-Wrist computer (I've used that one several times myself!)
- Arm/wrist slate
- Projector
- Mini-holo
- Assistant
- InfoDisplay
- Net Link
- ArmNet
@M. Lehman in a universe of over 400 billion systems how can you be sure that there are not any of the items or creatures I mentioned that you claim to not be of the Elite universe. As a man of science I am convinced it would be naive to believe that a "Pip-Boy" would only be in one single fragment of existance, but for your satisfaction we can assume that my character has attained the capability to travel between different dimensions and therefore may make reference or mention of objects and beings that are simply unfathomable to yourself and like minded individuals.
Stryker AuneMaschil_Crane,
As a fellow man of science, there are a few things that have me concerned about your posts that I would like clarification on.
Maschil_Crane
@M. Lehman in a universe of over 400 billion systems how can you be sure that there are not any of the items or creatures I mentioned that you claim to not be of the Elite universe. As a man of science I am convinced it would be naive to believe that a "Pip-Boy" would only be in one single fragment of existance, but for your satisfaction we can assume that my character has attained the capability to travel between different dimensions and therefore may make reference or mention of objects and beings that are simply unfathomable to yourself and like minded individuals.
The argument here,
1) The universe is big...
2) And because it is big, anything is possible...
3)So therefore in our big universe anything is possible,
is based on faulty logic. I would very much like to see scientific evidence that supports your claim.
In the meantime, I will present scientific evidence that states otherwise.
Two scientist by the names of Enrico Fermi and Michael Hart postulated the question "Where is everybody?" Using the Drake Equation they set out to answer that question.
The results, were not what anyone expected. The Fermi Paradox was born. In summery is states that the likelihood of extraterrestrial life in a galaxy of 400 billion stars, is astronomically remote (pun intended). That size actually works against the argument that more means a higher probability, but in fact that larger sizes means less likelihood of meeting other extraterrestrial races. Now I know this is based on the likelihood of meeting other races, and not scientific advancement. But here is the deal. Time travel is not possible. Stephen Hawkings has thoroughly explored this idea, and there are physical limits to what is possible, and not in this universe. The idea of a multiverse, is just that, a theory with no real scientific justification for its existence. If you can provide me some for review, I would be most gracious.
If I missing something, please correct me.
Maschil_Crane
Then George Lucas station is bs too. Sorry bout it. Hostile aliens are busy jumping in and out of the universe through a manufactured wormhole and mfs worried about the name of my wrist computer...
*shakes head solemnly*
Since Elite dangerous takes place in 3300-ish, it would be quite conceivable that there was once a 1964. And in that year, a man by the name of Gene Roddenberry produced a fictional television show called Star Trek.
It would also stand to be reasonable that in the Elite Dangerous time line there was also a 1954, where the British Author J. R. R. Tolkein published the first of his multipart book entitled Lord of the Rings.
Since Elite History includes our history, would it also be conceivable that engineers and politicians would draw inspiration from historical figures, both fictional and non-fictional in naming their stations?
As a scientist, I would have thought you would know the difference from drawing inspiration for naming things, verses injecting said named things into existing lore. That is, there is a difference between naming a space station "Enterprise" verses, a constitution class ship roaming the Elite Dangerous Universe fighting Klingons. So, yes, there is Leonard Nimoy station, orbiting a planet in game called Vulcan. How is that any different then us naming the moons of Jupiter and Saturn after mythological figures?
Am I missing something here as well?
Maschil_CraneOffer to give CMDR Crane a new wrist computer. Maybe he'll take it and then you wont ever have to hear about his Pip-Boy again. Unless he recalls it in a distant and narrated memory for some reason or another.
Creativity is part of what RPs about. If it bothers you then RP around it.
This one has me baffled. Help me understand how Plagiarism is considered creative?
An ending note. Yes Wikipedia is not considered a peer reviewed source, but I couldn't be arsed with finding all of figures and theories in text books, scanning them in and linking them.
I await you rebuttal,
Stryker Aune
Steve SakeThe thing is that our real timeline up until now is shared with the Elite universe, so people like George Lucas, Tolkien and everything else you mentioned are known in the year 3303. The fact that stations and characters share their name is just a homage, much like we name streets and monuments after historical people. Shoehorning a device that is clearly part of another universe makes zero sense and trying to justify it saying that the universe is vast and it's totally possible that someone somewhere has invented The Pip Boy makes even less sense.
John "Xeknos" MathurinJust once, I'd like to see when someone makes a RP request of someone else, that the other person says "Oh! My mistake, my apologies," and adjusts their RP accordingly as to not ruin anyone else's experience, instead of doubling down like a dickface and getting all butthurt about it.
Just once.
