Cartlidge1000

Maschil_CraneOn a side note: it is slightly comical to me that no one seems to have a problem with my Star Wars mentions in my RP.

No one else noticed until you pointed it out.

Should I bother reposting my argument as to why even with the game fallout existing in the elite universe it would likely be long forgotten by this point in time, and therefore invalidates half his hair-brained arguments?

Or should we just mark this as a lost cause and Ignore Maschil's posts from now on?

Cartlidge1000Huh.

TIL the fallout series is so significant to world history that it rivals the bible in importance, and therefore will be remembered for hundreds of years.

Luke3107TIL ?

Luke3107TIL ?

John "Xeknos" MathurinStands for "today I learned."

And yeah, his "Fallout rivals the Bible" is kind of a weak argument. I mean, I like Fallout as much as the next guy, but even I'm not making that claim. The chances of someone who is obsessed over a small thing such as a video game from the years 1998 - 2015 - so 1305 years ago in Elite lore - is essentially near zero.

And yet here we are.

But let's take a step back for a second. Maybe we ought to allow for a second that this is a guy whose life is so outrageously bad that the hill he feels the need to die on is him barely defending shoehorning Fallout lore into Elite lore. Maybe that's something we ought to be examining a little more closely.

Luke3107Just bare in mind, Maschil, that we aren't trying to push you out of the RP. All we are asking is that you respect the lore of the universe the RP is set in. Nothing more. A wristpad or similar device is fine, it's pseudoscience that we have to accept for the Universe until such a time as Frontier gives specifics on such equipment.

However, no matter how you try to explain it away, a Pip-Boy, is Fallout Lore, not Elite Lore. Simple as that. Sure, it's a small thing now, but the knock on effect is potentially huge.

We allow a pip-boy because "Fallout existed in the past therefore someone must have made a Pip-boy" Then we get "Star Trek existed, so teleporters must have been invented." Followed by "Skyrim existed so someone got plastic surgery to look like a Khajit." (Something we've already discouraged I might add.) This might be a small insignificant thing to you, but to the community as a whole it is a stone in a pond. It will create a ripple effect. If we allow that logic to apply once, we are forced to allow it to apply time and time again. (If you want to keep it Fallout related, what about the BigBoy Nuke Launcher thing? No reason someone hasn't invented one of those either after all).

To put it into a different context for you imagine joining a badminton club then saying "I can hit the shuttlecock because it bounces therefore hitting the ground isn't enough". In some weird way, yes, it makes sense. But at the end of the day, that's not the rule. The same applies here.

There is a small amount of logic to your argument, Fallout is a small part of Earth history. But it is, nonetheless, a VERY small piece. Insignificantly small I might add. I subscribe to the theory of infinite probability but does that mean I'm going to shoehorn a Daedra invasion into Citi Gateway? No.

Again, we are not here to be your enemy. We are here to collectively create stories for each others enjoyment. Unfortunately this means having a set of ground rules so that no-ones story contradicts anothers. The main one being, as has been pointed out to you, Respect the Lore of the Elite: Dangerous Universe. The Pip-Boy, is not part of that universe.

It's a simple thing. All we want, is that you refer to it as a wristpad from now on. In your Logbooks,GO WILD!!! Call it a Pip-Boy, Fight Deathclaws, drink your Nuka Cola or play with Dogmeat. But in the RP, Stick to the Lore, preferably without making excuses to shoehorn other lore stuff in.

Luke3107Since we're showing off character models. Here's Lilith,


Credit for image goes to: James "Albanach" Wallace

Luke3107Well... I tried.

And just in case anyone is suspicious, yes Lilith2980 IS me. Figured it was time to give her a life of her own.

Maschil_Crane

Luke3107Just bare in mind, Maschil, that we aren't trying to push you out of the RP. All we are asking is that you respect the lore of the universe the RP is set in. Nothing more. A wristpad or similar device is fine, it's pseudoscience that we have to accept for the Universe until such a time as Frontier gives specifics on such equipment.

However, no matter how you try to explain it away, a Pip-Boy, is Fallout Lore, not Elite Lore. Simple as that. Sure, it's a small thing now, but the knock on effect is potentially huge.

We allow a pip-boy because "Fallout existed in the past therefore someone must have made a Pip-boy" Then we get "Star Trek existed, so teleporters must have been invented." Followed by "Skyrim existed so someone got plastic surgery to look like a Khajit." (Something we've already discouraged I might add.) This might be a small insignificant thing to you, but to the community as a whole it is a stone in a pond. It will create a ripple effect. If we allow that logic to apply once, we are forced to allow it to apply time and time again. (If you want to keep it Fallout related, what about the BigBoy Nuke Launcher thing? No reason someone hasn't invented one of those either after all).

To put it into a different context for you imagine joining a badminton club then saying "I can hit the shuttlecock because it bounces therefore hitting the ground isn't enough". In some weird way, yes, it makes sense. But at the end of the day, that's not the rule. The same applies here.

There is a small amount of logic to your argument, Fallout is a small part of Earth history. But it is, nonetheless, a VERY small piece. Insignificantly small I might add. I subscribe to the theory of infinite probability but does that mean I'm going to shoehorn a Daedra invasion into Citi Gateway? No.

Again, we are not here to be your enemy. We are here to collectively create stories for each others enjoyment. Unfortunately this means having a set of ground rules so that no-ones story contradicts anothers. The main one being, as has been pointed out to you, Respect the Lore of the Elite: Dangerous Universe. The Pip-Boy, is not part of that universe.

It's a simple thing. All we want, is that you refer to it as a wristpad from now on. In your Logbooks,GO WILD!!! Call it a Pip-Boy, Fight Deathclaws, drink your Nuka Cola or play with Dogmeat. But in the RP, Stick to the Lore, preferably without making excuses to shoehorn other lore stuff in.

Ok Im done repeating myself about this. Like I said before contact Frontier and have them completely disassociate anything relateable to ours or any other universe. They opened the floodgates to the saturation of the universes history not me. I believe that was part of their intended purpose in fact to further expand on the "limitless" boundaries of the game.

That's all you'll hear from me on this subject. See you at the InGaBa. No hard feelings I hope.

CMDR Crane Out.