Elite roleplay: Q&A and OOC

28 Sep 2017, 4:19am
Ok. So let me understand - if I for example view the names of BO wing members, and then one of them turns up on the banter board - i cannot treat them to be a member of BO until they say so themselves.

And if so then what about in game.

Note I am not asking about the RP setting boards. Those all have notes about respect the universe setting.

Btw i have no clue what meta gaming means.


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28 Sep 2017, 4:19am
I guess this was a bad time to start.

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28 Sep 2017, 4:22am
DarthjazzhandsI guess this was a bad time to start.

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Dont worry. I will be gone from this room soon - my first time reading this thread and wanting some clarity.
28 Sep 2017, 4:28am
DarthjazzhandsI guess this was a bad time to start.

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You just had some...unfortunate timing with regards to this disagreement. As a fellow RP noob, welcome to the RP forums! If you go back a page, you should see some suggestions given to me by Giari, Luke, and Jemine after my intro post- all good suggestions.

I checked out your bio. I like it- it's an interesting format, and still leaves enough to the imagination that you can do some interesting stuff with it. The weird symbols are a little jarring, but I guess they're supposed to be decryption errors? Either way, it's good. Try starting out by posting something in the bar/docks, leaving a little hook for someone like Jemine demonstrates.
28 Sep 2017, 4:32am
Daman, let me put it to you this way. In real life you wouldn't know intimate details of a mafia crime family would you? Why would your character in this fictional setting? He wouldn't. The same rules apply here as they would in RL. The problem arises that there are nice record keeping sites like this that keep tally of the PLAYERS. But that sort of thing doesn't inherently exist in the character setting.

DamanOk. So let me understand - if I for example view the names of BO wing members, and then one of them turns up on the banter board - i cannot treat them to be a member of BO until they say so themselves.


Yes. Or it was somehow revealed to the character.


Daman
And if so then what about in game[?]


I would say yes, if they were hostile to you given the nature of our play. Buuuut what if Stryker met you in game and was all friendly, and played the double agent? You wouldn't really know until he gave you reason to believe he was an Omega operative.

Daman
Note I am not asking about the RP setting boards. Those all have notes about respect the universe setting. The banter board doesn't.


Not true. In fact Simon Dentura created the banter board, and it follows the same rules as the other RP threads.


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28 Sep 2017, 4:36am
Cuisinart8
DarthjazzhandsI guess this was a bad time to start.

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You just had some...unfortunate timing with regards to this disagreement. As a fellow RP noob, welcome to the RP forums! If you go back a page, you should see some suggestions given to me by Giari, Luke, and Jemine after my intro post- all good suggestions.

I checked out your bio. I like it- it's an interesting format, and still leaves enough to the imagination that you can do some interesting stuff with it. The weird symbols are a little jarring, but I guess they're supposed to be decryption errors? Either way, it's good. Try starting out by posting something in the bar/docks, leaving a little hook for someone like Jemine demonstrates.


Thanks for the guidance and feedback. Glad you like the bio but now I see comments about Intercepted Transmissions being frowned upon. So now I'm feelin' a bit foolish and intimidated. I may just stick to lurking for a bit until I learn more.
thanks
DJ
28 Sep 2017, 4:41am
Stryker AuneDaman, let me put it to you this way.

DamanOk. So let me understand - if I for example view the names of BO wing members, and then one of them turns up on the banter board - i cannot treat them to be a member of BO until they say so themselves.



Yes.

Daman
And if so then what about in game[?]



I would say yes, if they were hostile to you given the nature of our play. Buuuut what if Stryker met you in game and was all friendly, and played the double agent? You wouldn't really know until he gave you reason to believe he was an Omega operative.

Daman
Note I am not asking about the RP setting boards. Those all have notes about respect the universe setting. The banter board doesn't.



Not true. In fact Simon Dentura created the banter board, and it follows the same rules as the other RP threads.


My mistake. The other boards all have settings details but yes they all have the rules as well.

Again then - you have a big group like Black Omega. There are details about it in public here on wing pages and character bios etc.

But as an RP character you are expected to know nothing about any of this unless told directly?

Likewise if people exchange in game messages or instructions publically this should also just be ignored and its as if you didnt know it?
28 Sep 2017, 4:44am
I agree that my character wouldnt know the details.

But given he is opersting in black omega space and everything that is going on, it would not be unreasonable to hear rumours etc?
28 Sep 2017, 4:45am
Darthjazzhands
Cuisinart8
DarthjazzhandsI guess this was a bad time to start.

Backs slowly from the room




You just had some...unfortunate timing with regards to this disagreement. As a fellow RP noob, welcome to the RP forums! If you go back a page, you should see some suggestions given to me by Giari, Luke, and Jemine after my intro post- all good suggestions.

I checked out your bio. I like it- it's an interesting format, and still leaves enough to the imagination that you can do some interesting stuff with it. The weird symbols are a little jarring, but I guess they're supposed to be decryption errors? Either way, it's good. Try starting out by posting something in the bar/docks, leaving a little hook for someone like Jemine demonstrates.



Thanks for the guidance and feedback. Glad you like the bio but now I see comments about Intercepted Transmissions being frowned upon. So now I'm feelin' a bit foolish and intimidated. I may just stick to lurking for a bit until I learn more.
thanks
DJ


If your not making mistakes, your not trying. Most of us offer a lot of grace and will point out things that don't work. If your willing to listen, and learn, RP can be quite a bit of fun.

In the case of intercepted transmissions, reverse the setting. How would you the player feel, if a character stepped in and claimed to know information via "intercepted transmissions?" I can tell you, I would be quite annoyed. If your not sure, shoot a pm to the party you are RPing with and ask if they are okay with it. There is no harm in asking.
28 Sep 2017, 4:47am
DamanI agree that my character wouldnt know the details.

But given he is opersting in black omega space and everything that is going on, it would not be unreasonable to hear rumours etc?


Ah, very good Padawan. But rumors are rumors until they are shown to be truth.

And this is where a lot of fun propaganda can be had.

To be fair Damen, you were tossed into quite advanced RP, with little to no experience. I am glad to see you are trying to learn and listening. It makes for a much enjoyable story to follow along.

My advice Damen is slow down a bit. Don't hit so hard and fast with your propaganda. After a bit it looks like spam. I know I'm an Omega goon, and I am looking after our BGS. Buuuuuut, I sooooo want a story to be told here. The struggle of a man fighting an uphill battle against a seemingly unstoppable Force. With that in mind, please, don't hesitate to reach out and ask questions on your RP. I love helping people out. The Character Stryker is cold, calculating and a killer. But the player isn't. Feel free to PM me RP questions. If your not sure, shoot me a PM. I will work with you.


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28 Sep 2017, 4:51am
Ok. So if the character said - whats these rumours i have heard about your leader leaving or some such phrase, that would be ok in your book?

Rather than the definitive?
28 Sep 2017, 4:56am
DamanOk. So if the character said - whats these rumours i have heard about your leader leaving or some such phrase, that would be ok in your book?

Rather than the definitive?


I added more to the post above. Please read!

In terms of Marra leaving. For RP purposes, let's leave that off the books for now. As far as BO is concerned, she is still Deggies right hand man. Knowing her she will have an amazing story to tell. But until then, do what we are doing. Pretend she is still in Black Omega, just leave her out of the RP.
28 Sep 2017, 4:58am
BO keeps a lot of that stuff heavily under wraps, so there likely wouldn't be many rumors.

It's important that while the RP boards are for RP, the logbooks/character profiles/wing pages don't exists as records in Elite Dangerous - they're OOC records of IC events.

As an example, I write a lot of stories about John's adventures in my logbook, but these are for everyone's OOC enjoyment. Your character doesn't suddenly gain all of this knowledge about John's backstory. Similarly, simply reading the Black Omega wing roster shouldn't give your character that knowledge.
28 Sep 2017, 5:06am
John MathurinBO keeps a lot of that stuff heavily under wraps, so there likely wouldn't be many rumors.

It's important that while the RP boards are for RP, the logbooks/character profiles/wing pages don't exists as records in Elite Dangerous - they're OOC records of IC events.

As an example, I write a lot of stories about John's adventures in my logbook, but these are for everyone's OOC enjoyment. Your character doesn't suddenly gain all of this knowledge about John's backstory. Similarly, simply reading the Black Omega wing roster shouldn't give your character that knowledge.


Ok. But mine is different. The logbook is an ongoing narrative written IC. And others are the same. And I write it knowing it may give informstion to others. Hence the part about my comms being compromised.

I look at the wing info similarly I guess

Look I respect yr setting - I dont dictate whats going on in BO so if you want to say the wing info is not part of yr setting or that its really not known in public - i will mention in my next log that the rumours were incorrect and it was misinformation.

Anyway must go. Thanks.

And yeah. Its never personal
28 Sep 2017, 5:54am
This might floor a few of my friends over at the IWG, but I actually rather enjoyed your last logbook, Daman. Your character is beginning to show some depth, transitioning from a starry-eyed abolitionist of pure ideals to someone who finds himself working alongside lesser slavers in his battle against greater slavers. You didn't fail to mention the inner moral conflict of doing so, either.

I know that you probably haven't read all of our logbooks, and I'm not trying to push you into doing so- but your arc is actually quite consistent with the mythos that we as a collective whole have spent the last two years or so building up about Pegasi. We portray it as a place of lawlessness, desperation, and cultural backwardness where one's choices are to become a part of the corruption that infests Pegasi or get out while they can. It's a violent, exotic place where backstabbing and passions rule the day. Archon Delaine hangs his hat there, after all!

Your character's moral greying fits in perfectly with all that. I'm not saying this to sound smug or to gloat that you fell for some kind of head canon trap, but to simply state that your character is just starting to transition from (I'm sorry to say) irritating, one-dimensional self-righteousness to the beginnings of some real human depth. My challenge and request would be for you- and perhaps all of us- to take a step back from the same old back-and-forth that's been happening in Banter for a few weeks now, and see where things end up with you and your character.

Of course you're free to attack BO's BGS and make it your character's story, just as BO is free to defend their holdings and harass you in-game. The moral dilemma you touched on through working with the pirates shows that your character's immediate mission has gone from one of closing slave markets to opposing Black Omega. What would the "Daman" of four weeks ago have thought of that? I can only speak for myself, but I daresay that a bit of conflicted introspection makes for a far more interesting read than the same tired platitudes about freedom and sacrifice.


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