Elite: Game talk
11 Sep 2017, 1:52pm
Is this drop in price a BGS thang?
TIA
11 Sep 2017, 2:01pm
Reverend TZWA week or so ago, I was in a system mining painite for 74grand a ton. Gone back there and it's down to 40something a ton.
Is this drop in price a BGS thang?
TIA
Your mining is fulfilling the demand for it, so prices go down.
12 Sep 2017, 1:44am
With that being said, I wanted to ask why an individual enjoys what I'll (hesitantly) call griefing.
Again, not looking to argue, just an honest question.
12 Sep 2017, 2:01am
Nothing particularly unfair or unacceptable from either party. His odds of survival were clearly slim based on what he faced, but if it took them well over 30 seconds to kill him then he might've survived if he had high waked.
12 Sep 2017, 2:05am
Open play is the wild west. When you choose it, you're opening yourself up to PvP encounters. Some of them are fair, some of them are not, but there it is. Some folks are shit heads and like blowing people up for fun. Some folks are awesome people and like blowing people up for fun. Some are inspired by faction politics. Some want that reputation, that notoriety of being a ruthless killer. Probably a mix of all of the above plus a bunch of things I can't imagine right now.
Best bit of wisdom I've seen regarding PvP in Elite is adversity often says more about the person receiving it than the person dishing it out. Basically, what made your brother upset in the first place?
Finally, PvP in Elite is intense as hell. The tension, the emotions, the real sense of risk is all part of what makes it so enjoyable to many of us. I say this with affection: it ain't for the faint of heart!
EDIT: Posts passing in the night. Only thing I have to add is it sounds like a possible good learning experience for him.
Last edit: 12 Sep 2017, 2:15am
12 Sep 2017, 2:14am
Was he wanted in-system? Is he pledged to a power?
He might have been attacked for a gameplay reason, a roleplay reason, or no reason at all. It's simply the nature of the beast.
If I had any advice to offer, it would be to ask him to take that minute that he spent getting attacked and weight it against the time spent in-game when he wasn't getting attacked. Our primitive primate brains tend to focus on danger and perceived threats and overlook the larger picture. Coach him that he was a simple forgotten step away from escaping the danger, and that the story was very close to being one of daring escape rather than sullen defeat.
To steal from Obi Wan Kenobi, your friend has taken his first step in a larger world, one that at times offers more challenge and danger than the other two modes of play- but also arguably more rewarding in the long run.
Encourage him to take the long view, and he'll be running with (or at least successfully running from) the big dogs in no time.
12 Sep 2017, 2:15am
In regards to why he was upset, he's had a few anger issues in the past and expected elite to be a more soothing game (so why was he playing in open you ask? I'm not sure). This encounter specifically got to him because he didn't perceive the encounter as "fair," since it was three endgame combat ships against a high end freighter. If it had been one, he believes he would've been more accepting of it. I of course explained that he was rarely going to encounter a "fair fight" in elite, to which he asked what the fun of it was if it wasn't a challenge.
Hence my question here.
And yeah, he's definitely planning on being more careful in the future. He isn't really a combat player so I'd wager he'll be using solo play more often.
12 Sep 2017, 2:18am
I'll make sure to tell him what you said when I can.
12 Sep 2017, 2:21am
No shame in playing in Solo. If he's looking for something relaxing, that's the place to go!
A lot of PvPers do want a challenge, they just don't know when they're going to get it. Attack a player, roll the dice, see what happens! I've been involved in plenty of ganks (for and against) that turned into very fun encounters.
12 Sep 2017, 2:24am
For a trader, successfully running from an attack is winning at the game. It's all about the way he thinks about the encounter. A fully-laden T-7 won't stand a chance in combat against a PvP-outfitted Fer de Lance- and realistically, why should it? So the T-7 pilot develops evasive skills. He learns to keep his eyes peeled, he learns to high wake, and he learns how to use boost and FA off. In his own way, he still becomes skilled at PvP. Why? Because PvP isn't all combat. It's simply beating another player. And like I stated above, a freighter pilot evading an attack is winning the PvP encounter.
At the end of the day, he'll have a fuller, richer Elite experience- and have gotten gud to boot.
12 Sep 2017, 3:21am
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