Scanning plants
Excellent comment, totally concur.
Elite: Game talk
08 Oct 2022, 10:27pm
RearAdmiralPantsScanning plants
This feature could have been such a tremendously powerful form of lore-revealer - I even have a mental model of how I would architect it, using horizontal scaling of users scanning the same biological resource as said resource scaled in difficulty to analyze, where the most difficult would unlock permits, or new tech broker recipes, or definitive lore... It could be SOOOOO much more than this tremendously lame tool that for some reason can only hold 1-3 samples of one species in it at a time, for which you get paid if you can find three differing samples of the same species (itself a dubious biological proposition), but exactly how much you will be paid is a big old question mark.
I know we've all heard this before. I bought Odyssey the day it came out. It's not as awful as a lot of people claim, but it's awful enough to spell the end of the Elite franchise (as in: they can take their option to stop updating the game two years after Odyssey's launch, which starts a clock where they must actively continue supporting it for two years before they may do as they please - including just turning off the API servers which, despite being a P2P game, would EOL the entire product in one flick of a switch (or click of a checkbox), which I very much suspect they will do - I would, anyway, if I had ... that for development resources.
Hopefully I'm wrong. Nothing's on the horizon that really compares. C'est la vie.
Thank you again for your help, and dealing with my cynical pessmisim.
No worries.
About the plants stuff, yeah it could have been so much more, but they even removed (and never replaced) the scan minigame... Which wasn't great yes but to get rid of it entirely... Just shows there's a distinct lack of creativity in their design team.
If anything EDO confirmed that Frontier just aren't very good at creating enjoyable gameplay, the game's main draw remains to be the sandbox i.e. the Stellar Forge and the flight model, not the actual "game" bits of it. And certainly not the newly added FPS bits bolted on to it either. I still get 90% of my enjoyment from simply flying around in my spaceship, for better or worse.
08 Oct 2022, 10:41pm
Broken MessI still get 90% of my enjoyment from simply flying around in my spaceship, for better or worse.
Same here. The flight physics remain the game's sole selling point. Everything else about it is meh...
09 Oct 2022, 10:13am
09 Oct 2022, 2:44pm
How can my ship be instantly destroyed when I logged on in open play ?
I was mining for raw mats [again/still] and had nothing worth stealing.
Oh the tedium...........
All I want is a few tons of nickel, well 100or so for good measure, surely there must be somewhere to buy it these days...
What do I have to do........
Last edit: 09 Oct 2022, 3:21pm
09 Oct 2022, 5:41pm
DescartesWHAT//////////////
How can my ship be instantly destroyed when I logged on in open play ?
I was mining for raw mats [again/still] and had nothing worth stealing.
Oh the tedium...........
All I want is a few tons of nickel, well 100or so for good measure, surely there must be somewhere to buy it these days...
What do I have to do........
Destroyed by another player? Or did your ship just pop for no apparent reason?
09 Oct 2022, 5:53pm
Yuna SakashiroDescartesWHAT//////////////
How can my ship be instantly destroyed when I logged on in open play ?
I was mining for raw mats [again/still] and had nothing worth stealing.
Oh the tedium...........
All I want is a few tons of nickel, well 100or so for good measure, surely there must be somewhere to buy it these days...
What do I have to do........
Destroyed by another player? Or did your ship just pop for no apparent reason?
Just poppoed... eject,ejuedt, BOOM
Last edit: 09 Oct 2022, 6:37pm
09 Oct 2022, 6:36pm
09 Oct 2022, 7:04pm
DescartesThats it. I've had enough of pirates, time to become a bounty hunter. So, frag canons or multi canons. And what about pulse lasersPulse lasers have some good experimentals and don't eat your power distributor. If you can maintain time-on-target they are great, if you can't stay on target very long then beams are better. Personally for lasers I only use pulse, with a few exceptions.
Multicannons are consistent and reliable damage and are still good at range, but if you can manage to get close enough then frag cannons will devour ships.
09 Oct 2022, 7:05pm
09 Oct 2022, 9:23pm
10 Oct 2022, 10:29am
RearAdmiralPants
.. I know my Manticore/stealth build will differ vastly from my CZ/Dominator build; that's a given. Honestly I have never pulled out any weapon but my Tormentor. Is a G5 Executioner really useful in covert missions? What do you do, put hip shot on it and rarely use the scope (since the only reason I would ever see for a long-range kill if you're attempting stealth is covert assassination)? I mean, at that point the four mods would be noise suppressor, audio masking, hip shot, and...?
Or just go for the shotgun?
Are quieter footsteps worth putting on the manticore?
Silenced Executioner is very good outdoor weapon for taking out unshielded targets. For exame NPC assassination missions (if the target is outdoor) - you take position on some building top, observe target routine to find where it stops out of sight of any other NPC and then pull a trigger and go back to ship to claim the reward.
I use it for any killing in settlements outdoor, it makes life easier. It is better to stay calm and kill from silence than running with shields chased by 10 buggies.
The absolute must have mods are:
1. Audio masking - silencing weapon outside of buildings. It is pointless to use it indoor. Tormentor have higher rate of fire.
2. Magazine size - one extra shot is very valuable when you need it as reload time even with faster reload mod is slow.
Optional - scope - extra zoom and precision on distance + it can be used as binoculars. Best zoom on weapon.
Optional - faster reload time as it takes quite a time.
Optional - stability (makes life easier in consecutive shots)
Optional - stowed reload
I wouldn't recommend hip accuracy for Executioner. This is ranged weapon made for using with scope.
Quite footsteps halfs noise detection range from steps. It is useful only while running and jogging. If you walk and crouch it is marginally useful. IMO, it do not worth the matherials.
10 Oct 2022, 10:52am
Stowed reload I have on both the laser/kinetic rifles and also the rocket launcher - useful if you switch a lot (so less useful for plasma weapons imo).
Quiet footsteps sounds (hur dur) good on paper but I didn't bother with it in the end after trying it on a gifted G3 suit. The benefit is very marginal.
Whoever is interested check out my personal equipment it should show you the mods I have on each weapon and suit... no real regrets with the mods I used on each of them, though I would say that the scope is only useful on the shotgun because of the hilarious/cringe way FDev thinks a scope works, particularly on that weapon. But I'll take it in this particular case, am actually surprised they haven't patched it out yet.
11 Oct 2022, 2:26am
ArtieProblems in the game? Are you looking for something? Do you have anything else on your mind? Feel free to discuss it here.
no offence, but how is hiding basic functions and making people do more clicks to find them "making it better" or "improving" inara? where's the flight manual for the new inara?, i just go to the old inara. when that's gone, i'll work something else out.
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