Elite: Game talk

Adam 'The detective' Štefánik
23 Apr 2024, 5:01pm
Glen van RossThey don't say anything about Arx-only engineered modules, so it's not pay-to-win. Just pay-for-impatience. The prebuilt stuff doesn't seem super-useful but I guess it can be if you're a brand new player and don't want to spend a month reading reddit.

I hope that FDEV dont add pay to win mechanics because it would ruin game. And this is what I like on ED-no pay to win.

Also today I repeated how weird on foot combat is, because Maelstrom killing is not mine cup of tea-if I get past pulse, every instance I which I will jump is broken. So today I did little scavenging and scavenger eliminating. Hell, I really need that night vision on Maverick (on Dominator I already have it)
Bainsey7
23 Apr 2024, 5:02pm
Glen van Ross
Kasumi Gotohttps://www.elitedangerous.com/news/python-mk-ii-updates-gamestore

If you wanted controversial and popcorn material, here you go.


I don't really see any downsides here. Frontier needs a revenue stream, and if you need need need the new ship you can buy it 3 months ahead of time with Arx. Or you can wait the 3 months until general release and buy it with credits.

They don't say anything about Arx-only engineered modules, so it's not pay-to-win. Just pay-for-impatience. The prebuilt stuff doesn't seem super-useful but I guess it can be if you're a brand new player and don't want to spend a month reading reddit.



Succinctly put. I think that sounds about right.

.... by the way...

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU... . . . . . .
Kasumi Goto
23 Apr 2024, 8:19pm
I guess I’ll say possibly controversial material, but personally, not really sure I swing one way or the other. Depends just on what the “pre-packaged ship” offer is, but I don’t expect anything super stupid like a fully engineered ship with all A rated modules. More likely to be C to A rated with some basic engineering slapped on.

Python variant? I got over the original. Awaiting opinions from other players and what they will get up to in terms of builds for the ship before I decide. And likely will wait for it to be commonly available with credits, because… I am really not in a rush to get my hands on the thing.
Bainsey7
23 Apr 2024, 9:10pm
Agreed. By August its uses and flaws will be very much established and then it becomes essentially free. Acquiring it with in game currency and not faffing around figuring out its use as others will have done that already sounds fine to me.
Netdigger
24 Apr 2024, 3:11pm


Hi there, just a question. I am on foot on an planet with brain trees. I am able to shoot rsources from tree. I know that i can collect with an SRV, but is it possible to clollect when i am on foot?
https://ibb.co/F8ZB7Rz
Glen van Ross
24 Apr 2024, 4:19pm
Nope. You can only collect Odyssey materials while on foot. If you want to collect raw materials from brain trees, you need an SRV (or a ship with collector limpets, moved beyond brain tree draw distance).
Netdigger
24 Apr 2024, 5:00pm
Thx for quick answer. But an other question. I tried it with my ship ( having collector limpets) but i cant focus the materials in the brain trees. With a SRV, you can focus the material as target ( this works easy). But when i am inside my ship i get no rectangle that i can focus with the (t) key on keyboard. Is there a trick?
Glen van Ross
24 Apr 2024, 5:17pm
Yes, there is a trick. Using the limpet method, you use flechettes or flak launchers on a ship and fire them into the brain tree forest to dislodge the materials from the trees. Then you move away slightly (until the brain trees despawn, but not so far that the materials despawn). Then you launch collector limpets, not targeting anything, and letting them collect the things they want to collect (excluding anything you have told them to ignore).

The point of despawning the trees is so that the collector limpets don't get hung up or stuck in them.

I don't generally like this method, personally, but there is no question that it is the fastest way to collect raw materials. Watch the farming videos on this reddit post to see how it's done.

Last edit: 24 Apr 2024, 5:31pm
Kasumi Goto
24 Apr 2024, 5:49pm
So, amidst the chaos of the new Python early access and buying pre-built ships(some further details here - all looks perfectly fine to me), I totally forgot there’s the Frontier livestream with more Powerplay rework details going.

Will be curious to hear what people say on the details shared(and what those details are)…
Adam 'The detective' Štefánik
24 Apr 2024, 5:52pm
What?! G5 dirty drag drives?! This is becoming more interesting
Kasumi Goto
24 Apr 2024, 5:59pm
It’s supposed to be an AX starter ship, so in that limited scenario I can understand it. The miner Keelback is totally unengineered as far as I can see.

And none of the other modules (on the Chieftain) are engineered, except the gauss which are singular use modules, so that’s something to keep in mind for it. Plus however those engineering changes go through…
Netdigger
24 Apr 2024, 6:14pm
Thx a lot, i will check this when i am back in bubble. Need to buy a flak. At moment i am on a exploration trip. Again, many thx for your help.
Adam 'The detective' Štefánik
24 Apr 2024, 6:28pm
Kasumi GotoThe miner Keelback is totally unengineered as far as I can see.

Sure? I can see pre-engineered mining laser even despite fact for that particular module you must obtain system permit

EDIT: But at least in case of Chieftain, they did something correct-that drives. Because without engineered thrusters you dont have high chance to survive
Kasumi Goto
24 Apr 2024, 7:28pm
Adam 'The detective' Štefánik

Sure? I can see pre-engineered mining laser even despite fact for that particular module you must obtain system permit

Oh, those. Probably the most insignificant module of anything engineered, manually or preset by Frontier. So insignificant that I actually forgot about it.

Putting that aside, those are fine too. I mean, who's going to complain about a modified mining laser being offered. Not like it's, like, the pre-engineered FSDs being provided(and even that could be argued to not have a hugely significant gameplay impact - the main benefit of it is having fast boot alongside the increased range, and I'd only see that really change anything in a PvP scenario where the reboot missiles are involved... so, not extremely impactful for a new player in most likely scenarios).

Anyway, I'm being told the next ship variant will be a Type 8. Eurgh.
Bainsey7
24 Apr 2024, 8:07pm
What would a Type-8 even be? A Type-7 with a ship kit and extra module space?
Somehow I doubt people are gonna queue up to pay 16250 ARX to get that one 3 months early...

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