Ralph ThumThinder, you saved my career, or rather got it off the ground. Thank you very much for that.

Thinder
My Krait Phantom is completely unarmed.

To get this sort of range you need weight saving measures, so getting rid of weapons is a must and in any case, I never need a weapon.

On my Combat ships I use fixed weapons, except in the case of the Corvette because the 4A MULTI-CANNON [GIMBALLED] seems to focus faster than lower Class, my Beam Lasers are Fixed. (Make me think that I could change the two 2F MULTI-CANNON for Fixed weapons.

I'm not a dedicated fighter either, I'm more of a trader and explorer, but in order to rise in Federation rank and unlock Sol and other systems, it's necessary to do some fighting, isn't it?

Kasumi GotoMy two cents on jump range, it is good/nice to have if you've got specific points in mind you'd like to reach but still do exploring along the way. Hence, 60+ ly range builds, and really, you lose basically nothing by stripping down an exploration-focused ship some. The only dangers out there are your own inattention, some NSPs(which are only lethal if you don't pay attention to the thing flashing angrily and don't back off), and jet cones. The only one shields might save you from is the first.

Similarly along the waypoint idea, if there is a specific region or general part of the galaxy you prefer to poke your nose around in, the range will equally be practical to that end. Once I am in an area I want to explore more thoroughly [or you are], a simple switch to economical routing will do. Or just pick systems around your location at your leisure.

A player's style of exploration also matters significantly. I prefer to just set myself a waypoint at a random spot, whichever distance it ends up away at(or that my brain is happy with), and follow along whichever systems I find throughout the route, even if it is using long-range routing. That's what I find fun, and I fail to see how it is 'wrong'.

The whole "jump range" debate certainly isn't a straightforward black and white... though that isn't to say I cannot live with a really long range per jump. I have a Courier that does around 42 or 45(iirc) and don't mind that at all either... it just happens I often prefer to fly the Phantom over it.

Thinder

MinonianLet's just not talk about how much challenge someone holds whom only takes on n00bs... None, as far the other has a correctly engineered ship, and some peoples are in their mind to not protect these i'm rathernotsayingwhats.

Agreed.

I'm too old and slow for the PVE challenges but I take pride on never having been a bully, plus, bots don't complain so let's go solo...

Minonian

Thinder

MinonianLet's just not talk about how much challenge someone holds whom only takes on n00bs... None, as far the other has a correctly engineered ship, and some peoples are in their mind to not protect these i'm rathernotsayingwhats.

Agreed.

I'm too old and slow for the PVE challenges but I take pride on never having been a bully, plus, bots don't complain so let's go solo...

Getting back to this?

SakashiroGibt es Nachteile, wenn man ein A-bewertetes FSD durch ein A-bewertetes SCO-FSD mit der gleichen Technik ersetzt? Ich habe gerade einen in meinen Adder gesteckt (in EDSY, noch nicht im Spiel) und die einzigen Werte, die ich bemerkt habe, waren Sprungreichweite (+4 Ly) und Rebuy. Es scheint keinen Grund zu geben, überhaupt noch Pre-SCO-Laufwerke zu verwenden. Übersehe ich etwas?

Lambast MercyI changed a pre-engineered FSD on my Phantom with a SCO FSD, and lost 1 LY.
Did the same with a Mamba, with no change in jump range.

I put Jump Range and Mass Management on all of them.

Jarge[Thinder Wrote / I also play exclusively in VR, I use a Pico 4.]

Hi Thinder , How do you find the Pico 4 ?

I'm currently using HP Reverb G2 and am waiting for my 3rd cable [ Overheating issue ]

I was thinking of swapping to the Pico 4 so I could try the wireless option.

Sakashiro

Lambast MercyI changed a pre-engineered FSD on my Phantom with a SCO FSD, and lost 1 LY.
Did the same with a Mamba, with no change in jump range.

I put Jump Range and Mass Management on all of them.

Interesting. I can't reproduce these results on EDSY at all. Even the double-engineered "V1" FSD's jump range is slightly surpassed by the 5A SCO FSD. In fact it's like the A-class SCO drives are meant to supplant the double-engineered FSDs that were available only once or twice as CG rewards. Good news for explorers if true.

Sakashiro

Lambast MercyI changed a pre-engineered FSD on my Phantom with a SCO FSD, and lost 1 LY.
Did the same with a Mamba, with no change in jump range.

I put Jump Range and Mass Management on all of them.

Interesting. I can't reproduce these results on EDSY at all. Even the double-engineered "V1" FSD's jump range is slightly surpassed by the 5A SCO FSD. In fact it's like the A-class SCO drives are meant to supplant the double-engineered FSDs that were available only once or twice as CG rewards. Good news for explorers if true.

Kasumi Goto

Sakashiro

Lambast MercyI changed a pre-engineered FSD on my Phantom with a SCO FSD, and lost 1 LY.
Did the same with a Mamba, with no change in jump range.

I put Jump Range and Mass Management on all of them.

Interesting. I can't reproduce these results on EDSY at all. Even the double-engineered "V1" FSD's jump range is slightly surpassed by the 5A SCO FSD. In fact it's like the A-class SCO drives are meant to supplant the double-engineered FSDs that were available only once or twice as CG rewards. Good news for explorers if true.

The SCO drives do have slightly more range than even the pre-engineered versions. Their ‘optimised mass’ stat goes to something like 1,894 as opposed to the V1’s 1,856(both with mass manager).

The increase in the range is negligible for the 5As though, my explorer Phantom gained something like .19 ly. The addition of the supercruise overcharge, on the other hand…

For other builds, there may be subtleties which make the V1 look favorable due to background stats or just having range and fast boot, but I don’t think any of mine have or require such considerations.

(I did keep the 5C on my Bubble runner Phantom instead of a 5A SCO because of the lower thermal load of the C rated version… unless by now Frontier swapped its stats with the 5B which you literally have no reason to use when it’s the same as a C rated but with much worse thermal load during overcharge.)