Elite: Game talk

LaRone79
17 Aug 2021, 10:49am
Alex Hoffmann
LaRone79
Alex Hoffmannkein problem, ich muss erst nachmittags zur arbeit..
meld dich nachher einfach nochmal, werd um 12-13 uhr online sein




Ich grüße dich. Komme gerade schlecht an meine X-Box ran. ab wann bist du denn ca wieder da?


recht spät.. so gegen 24 uhr..


Habe dir privat geschrieben. ist glaube etwas besser
Dead Jake
17 Aug 2021, 10:57am
SakashiroI need some expert advice regarding my shield setup. Currently I have thermal resistant bi-weave + 4 resistance augmented boosters:


Pick option 3. Higher recharge time comes only from higher raw value of shields, and please don't focus just on thermal res.
Burstar
17 Aug 2021, 11:35am
SakashiroI need some expert advice regarding my shield setup. Currently I have thermal resistant bi-weave + 4 resistance augmented boosters:

Which one would you choose?


Personally, I'd leave it like this but set the experimentals to whichever resistance is lowest (Kinetic I believe).

I'd just add that, excepting any recharge rate penalties that may be expressely stated in an engineering detail list, recharge rate is unchanged but typically appears to be slower because your shield has a higher cap.

2 shields, both with 15 hp/s recharge, one with 1000 cap and the other with 2000. The 2000 cap shield will appear to be recharging slower because each tick is half the percentage of the smaller shield but exactly the same in damage recovery rate (in this simplified example).
Dirnivir
17 Aug 2021, 11:43am
Sakashiro
Dirnivircan i join you in my stupid viper with the union jack as a ship paint that can exceed speeds of 800m/s


Any time!

Imagine a whole squadron of unarmed high speed trolls harassing gankers.

this is a very good idea. i am bitter about a ganker called waynkers destroying my asp a few months ago.
Sakashiro
17 Aug 2021, 12:24pm
Usually I prefer raw shield strength to be high because it offers more protection against collisions and plasma accelerators in typical PvE scenarios. Both my first Courier and my Mamba are set up like that. However, gankers usually attack me with railguns only, and these are 50/50 thermal/kinetic. They'd be very lucky to land a hit with a PA, and ramming can be ruled out completely. So in this case a balanced high thermal/kinetic resistance coupled with a faster effective recharge rate may be better.
Rapis
17 Aug 2021, 1:32pm
Dirnivir
Sakashiro
Dirnivircan i join you in my stupid viper with the union jack as a ship paint that can exceed speeds of 800m/s



Any time!

Imagine a whole squadron of unarmed high speed trolls harassing gankers.


this is a very good idea. i am bitter about a ganker called waynkers destroying my asp a few months ago.


this did sound like fun
Sakashiro
17 Aug 2021, 3:37pm
I suck at interdicting.

Guess I have to bite the bullet and switch to mouse yaw. I hate that.
Sakashiro
17 Aug 2021, 4:04pm
Omg, mouse yaw makes me feel like a complete noob. I'll spend the rest of the week in training sims, reprogramming my muscle memory...
Episparh
17 Aug 2021, 4:14pm
SakashiroOmg, mouse yaw makes me feel like a complete noob. I'll spend the rest of the week in training sims, reprogramming my muscle memory...

Sorry, what you had till now on the mouse x-axis and where was the Yaw?

n00b
Dirnivir
17 Aug 2021, 4:16pm
i use a controller for all my games asides from the ones i cant like. oblivion and sims. i would for oblivion but it doesnt work.
Sakashiro
17 Aug 2021, 4:32pm
EpisparhSorry, what you had till now on the mouse x-axis and where was the Yaw?

I've had roll on mouse-x ever since I played my first flight sim. Because when you're flying a plane, most of the action is pitch & roll. Yaw is only for minor corrections when landing.

On foot movement is of course a different story. Roll doesn't even exist there.

In ED, yaw on keys results in frequent over-corrections. No problem during flight, but a pain in the butt when aiming. So now I have to erase years of practice and train my brain to play ED like a FPS, but with roll on keys.
Episparh
17 Aug 2021, 6:46pm
sigh, space combat have a lot of common with first person shooters if you use kbd+m. Especially with FAon.



Zentzlb
17 Aug 2021, 6:56pm
Burstar
Zentzlb



Those both qualify as non-essential modules.





Except your 'unessential module' weighs 20 tonnes.

Look, here's what I would do. It gets you 5 more m/s. Note it allowed me to drop the fuel tank a tier as it really is non-essential at this point because 8t gets you the jump in, the jump out and a whole hour of un-naggy voice+timer playtime! If you really want a 16t tank it only costs 1m/s.

Frankly I don't care what you do. I understand completely what you're doing and why you think it's a good idea. That's my point. To just judge you and come across as a smarmy a-hole instead of starting an actually interesting discussion of why things are being done that people can learn from. Just to show you how it feels and it's clear I've made my point. So, if you'd like to critique or ask questions of why or how feel free to do so. Just remember, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.


I'm not sure why you think I was the aggressor in this exchange, I just said that the chieftain is not good as a shield tank, which is an objective fact, and you tried to make it personal. Yes, against NPCs it wont really matter what kind of build you run, but against players the shield tank build will die VERY quickly.

Concerning my build which you seem so fixated on, I will admit there are a few things which could be optimized, but switching from G5 LW grade A life support to G5 LW grade D life support doesn't even give me an extra m/s of boost speed. Furthermore, that chieftain is almost exclusively used for 1v1s where top speed doesn't matter that much, and I don't have spare engineering mats to waste at the moment.
Sakashiro
17 Aug 2021, 8:14pm
Episparhsigh, space combat have a lot of common with first person shooters if you use kbd+m. Especially with FAon.

I just need to practice interdictions. Today was the first time I interdicted another player.
Zentzlb
17 Aug 2021, 8:26pm
Sakashiro
Episparhsigh, space combat have a lot of common with first person shooters if you use kbd+m. Especially with FAon.


I just need to practice interdictions. Today was the first time I interdicted another player.


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