Elite: Lore

Inh1b1ted UKCG
16 Nov 2017, 8:53am
No there is no canon on the alliance generals who or where in game present. You could probably imply from that that they have given a certain ammount of self determination to the alliance groups to make this their own within the meta game. You can certainly guarantee that if we all agree on something that a militia will arise (again)

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Phelbore
03 Dec 2017, 5:03pm
Alrighty, physics time! Inertial dampers (by whatever name) exist in much sci-fi, usually connected to the artificial gravity (which doesn't exist in Elite). How do people not squish? I'd hand-wave it as a Remlock feature, but that doesn't make sense for passengers.
Jemine Caesar
03 Dec 2017, 5:09pm
In normal space, our ships only travel at fairly low speeds. In Witchspace, the ship itself isn't moving. It's space that moves around the ship. (I know, I don't understand it either)

The seats in our ships are fitted with gel which moulds to the pilot. Walking around the ship whilst in flight would result in a lot of bumping around, but not to the extent of squishing at ftl speeds
Phelbore
03 Dec 2017, 5:38pm
An A-rated Orca, boosting from the speed limit of 100m/s should hit over 400m/s in a couple seconds.  According to this that's 15g.  I think the USAF limits their pilots to 7g in suits designed to compensate for it.

Edit: Not trying to be rude, sorry if it came off that way. It was my first thought too so I ran the numbers before posting the first time.

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User23543
03 Dec 2017, 5:50pm
Nice to know for sure now that 'ding' isn't Fasten Seatbelts but Prepare to Splat.
Isaiah Evanson
03 Dec 2017, 6:10pm
The novel Wanted talks about the seats injecting their pilots with various chemical cocktails to keep them awake and aware during high-g maneuvers. The gel cushioning also makes appearances, as recently as Premonition.

If I had to theorize, the Remlok suit provides both a gel cushioning layer and chemicals to the pilot.

I've had trouble with believing this as well when I'm sitting on a 10g world in my SRV and my pilot isn't hunched over in agony. But... handwavium is a powerful thing.
User78245
03 Dec 2017, 6:42pm
My favorite detail in the game is while trying to make a radical course correction while in Glide. Your pilot will experience grey out from the g forces.
Nex Cruor
03 Dec 2017, 11:40pm
Isaiah EvansonThe novel Wanted talks about the seats injecting their pilots with various chemical cocktails to keep them awake and aware during high-g maneuvers.


The show Expanse has an injection "thing". If you haven't seen the show you really need to get on board (Just googled to see when s03 releases and found it's a book series...)
Phelbore
04 Dec 2017, 12:09am
Nex Cruor
Isaiah EvansonThe novel Wanted talks about the seats injecting their pilots with various chemical cocktails to keep them awake and aware during high-g maneuvers.



The show Expanse has an injection "thing". If you haven't seen the show you really need to get on board (Just googled to see when s03 releases and found it's a book series...)


I actually know the author!  Had dinner with him a couple times, nice guy. Unfortunately, that doesn't help here. I'm ok with handwavium, I was just hoping it had been covered by someone somewhere.
Isaiah Evanson
04 Dec 2017, 12:15am
There's a lot about the Remlok suits that I'm curious about. Supposedly the helmet deploys from a compartment behind the pilot's neck, though I can't really tell how it would do so. There's also four ports that seem to connect to the chair. 

These are things FDEV should explain sometime.
Jubei Himura
04 Dec 2017, 5:08pm
Isaiah EvansonThere's a lot about the Remlok suits that I'm curious about. Supposedly the helmet deploys from a compartment behind the pilot's neck, though I can't really tell how it would do so. There's also four ports that seem to connect to the chair. 

These are things FDEV should explain sometime.


Apparently the Remlok suit is partially made from nano-tech so the theory is the helmet forms from the nanos, much like how the suit is supposed to repair small tears and even close off sections that have been severed.

The ports on the back are for the seat but I haven't figured out what for yet.

Off topic: Yay! A lore forum!
Ohgren
04 Dec 2017, 11:29pm
The ports on the back are for the seat but I haven't figured out what for yet.


So the Remlok is part of the seat? Does that mean the whole seat unit goes into the escape pod when you eject? Also, is the remlok of any temporary help if a cmdr gets spaced?
Isaiah Evanson
04 Dec 2017, 11:30pm
If you look closely at the seat (not counting the Imperial ones) it appears that the seat itself has maneuvering thrusters. There's also a large "hump" on the back of it. 

I don't think the Remlok is part of the seat itself, per se, but rather it connects to it as a supplementary life support unit.
Nex Cruor
06 Dec 2017, 4:25am
Jemine CaesarIt's space that moves around the ship. (I know, I don't understand it either)


And this why I'm glad it is science fiction. Because then 2 ships moving in opposite directions simultaneously would rip the space time continuum in "half".
Luke3107
06 Dec 2017, 8:32am
Nex Cruor
Jemine CaesarIt's space that moves around the ship. (I know, I don't understand it either)

And this why I'm glad it is science fiction. Because then 2 ships moving in opposite directions simultaneously would rip the space time continuum in "half".

Not to seem patronising or condescending, but Nex's statement demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of how space works. What Nex suggests is akin to having two marbles between two sheets of paper. In order for one to move, so does the other. Indeed in this scenario, to move them in opposite directions simultaneously you will need to tear the paper.

Imagine how a turbine engine works. While not strictly accurate, it creates a reduction in pressure ahead of it and a greater pressure behind it, essentially pulling itself along using this difference in pressure. The movement creates a difference in pressures all around the turbine and it's 'this' that we refer to as a bubble. Inside the bubble, nothing is really moving. The air around it is moving instead. Like how in a plane you can walk around the gangways and not feel the effects of the fact you are flying in excess of 300Mph.

The same basic principle exists in the theory of space travel. Two ships moving in opposite directions would not stretch space between them to the point it snaps. Rather the space around both ships would simply rush to equal out the pressure in front and behind the individual vessels.

I do recommend you watch the video Killer provided. It's quite informative and useful to wrap your head around the idea of something moving space around itself.

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